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Cleveland Browns #1 & #4 picks.

Not that high on Tyrod. He's a bridge until whichever QB they draft develops. Sure you can hope to build a team around an average QB, but how many times does that result in a SB victory? Philadelphia this year; Foles got hot. But past SB's have been won by top-10, top-5 QB's, with just occasional exceptions. Taylor is not that guy.

If I'm Cleveland, I'm tempted to trade down with one of those picks. Saquon is very good, but the draft is deep in RB's. I'm not sure you draft one that high. A QB and either Chubb or Nelson would be a great draft. Cleveland should take the QB #1 since both the Jets and Giants may target QB's at #2 and #3.

Only the Mannings are top picks to win a SB...

Brady - nope
Big Ben - nope (#8 but QBs taken before him)
Wilson - nope
Rodgers - nope
Flacco - nope

So Im not sure who all these QBs are that you are referring too?

Defense won the Ravens and Broncos their SBs...

Also, I think Tyrod could be Mayfields ceiling and I have a feeling the Browns like him. Tyrod imo is a top 12-14 QB who has proven himself as a winner, takes care of the ball and makes plays on his feet. Id be tempted to hand him the keys.
 
Browns - Rosen/Allen/Mayfield
Giants - Barkley
Jets - Mayfield/Rosen/Allen
Browns - Chubb
Denver -Nelson/QB left

Giants would be CRAZY to pass on Rosen. Hes so polished and easily the best QB in the draft, hes a Manning clone!

I dont think he'd buy into Cleveland anx thats why I dont have much interest in him but he would be PERFECT in NY.
 
Only the Mannings are top picks to win a SB...

Brady - nope
Big Ben - nope (#8 but QBs taken before him)
Wilson - nope
Rodgers - nope
Flacco - nope

So Im not sure who all these QBs are that you are referring too?

Defense won the Ravens and Broncos their SBs...

Also, I think Tyrod could be Mayfields ceiling and I have a feeling the Browns like him. Tyrod imo is a top 12-14 QB who has proven himself as a winner, takes care of the ball and makes plays on his feet. Id be tempted to hand him the keys.

Rofl. Do you watch football? Tyrod stinks.
 
Qb’s better than Tyrod.

Wentz
Alex Smith
Eli
Dak
Rodgers
Cousins
Stafford
Newton
Brees
Ryan
Wilson
Jimmy G (yes, I’m saying it already)
Goff
Brady
Flacco
Dalton
Big Ben
Luck
Watson
Bortles (better than TT in playoffs)
Mariota
Rivers
Keenum
Carr

That’s 24 qb’s. You could definitely say to take off Bortles, and maybe argue another 3-6 but he is nowhere near being a top 12-14 qb. Outside of Bortles, every GM in the league would take those guys over Tyrod.
 
Rofl. Do you watch football? Tyrod stinks.

All the guys you listed arent all better.

Id separate into
Teir 1 - 4 QBs
Teir 2 - 6 QBs
Teir 3 - 6-8 QBs

Id have Tyrod in teir 3. But for anyone to take care of the football is so foreign to a Browns fan, its kind of a big deal. Id focus on building an awesome defense, its more of a sure thing than hoping to luck out on a FQB.
 
All the guys you listed arent all better.

Id separate into
Teir 1 - 4 QBs
Teir 2 - 6 QBs
Teir 3 - 6-8 QBs

Id have Tyrod in teir 3. But for anyone to take care of the football is so foreign to a Browns fan, its kind of a big deal. Id focus on building an awesome defense, its more of a sure thing than hoping to luck out on a FQB.

Every single GM in the league would take all of them (outside of Bortles maybe) over Tyrod Taylor.
 
Every single GM in the league would take all of them (outside of Bortles maybe) over Tyrod Taylor.

Dorsey didnt... lol at you thinking you know anything about what an NFL GM thinks. Get a grip dude.

Its just your opinion. And like they say, opinions are like assholes, everyone has them.
 
The Browns are going to pick Darnold #1, so get used to it. And I think that's a good pick. He's really good under pressure, waits until the last moment to throw the ball and he's at his best when things break down. I think they're going to also want a left tackle and trade back out of #4. There are some really good OTs but they can be had in the middle of the first.

After selecting Garrett last year, I don't know why you'd pick another pass rusher so high. The Browns did, on the other hand, just lose a hall of fame LT to retirement. The other option would be Tremaine Edmunds at #4 who could fill another role and also rush the passer when desired. Pairing up Garrett and Edmunds is more terrifying than Garrett and Chubb IMO.

I think the Giants will select Rosen, but who knows. I'm pretty sure the Jets will select Rosen or Allen, whoever is available. Then again, I have no idea if they've fallen in love with Mayfield.

I don't know if the Broncos want another QB after signing Keenum. I could see Elway being intrigued by Josh Allen, good kid, unbelievable arm but inaccurate in college. He might be gone already at #5. Quentin Nelson is a generational talent and fills a need for the Broncos.

I think the Colts pick Chubb at #6 if available. Tampa could trade out to a QB needy team (Arizona) unless Chubb is available. The Bears are a massive wildcard, no one has any idea what they'll do. They've already spent on receivers, so Ridley isn't an option. Not in a market for a QB. Barkley isn't a need. If Edmunds or Nelson drops, that will be the pick. Now comes the most important pick in the draft -- the Niners and Nine. I know Chubb won't drop to them, but there are scenarios where Edmunds, Nelson or Barkley drops to 9. All fill a need.
 
The Browns are going to pick Darnold #1, so get used to it. And I think that's a good pick. He's really good under pressure, waits until the last moment to throw the ball and he's at his best when things break down. I think they're going to also want a left tackle and trade back out of #4. There are some really good OTs but they can be had in the middle of the first.

After selecting Garrett last year, I don't know why you'd pick another pass rusher so high. The Browns did, on the other hand, just lose a hall of fame LT to retirement. The other option would be Tremaine Edmunds at #4 who could fill another role and also rush the passer when desired. Pairing up Garrett and Edmunds is more terrifying than Garrett and Chubb IMO.

I think the Giants will select Rosen, but who knows. I'm pretty sure the Jets will select Rosen or Allen, whoever is available. Then again, I have no idea if they've fallen in love with Mayfield.

I don't know if the Broncos want another QB after signing Keenum. I could see Elway being intrigued by Josh Allen, good kid, unbelievable arm but inaccurate in college. He might be gone already at #5. Quentin Nelson is a generational talent and fills a need for the Broncos.

I think the Colts pick Chubb at #6 if available. Tampa could trade out to a QB needy team (Arizona) unless Chubb is available. The Bears are a massive wildcard, no one has any idea what they'll do. They've already spent on receivers, so Ridley isn't an option. Not in a market for a QB. Barkley isn't a need. If Edmunds or Nelson drops, that will be the pick. Now comes the most important pick in the draft -- the Niners and Nine. I know Chubb won't drop to them, but there are scenarios where Edmunds, Nelson or Barkley drops to 9. All fill a need.

God I hope its not Mayfield. That dude isnt playing in that division with those little hands.

Id be happy with Allen, Darnold or Barkley at #1. Im trusting Dorsey so wont be getting worked up whatever happens.
 
Dorsey didnt... lol at you thinking you know anything about what an NFL GM thinks. Get a grip dude.

Its just your opinion. And like they say, opinions are like assholes, everyone has them.

Lol wut? So Dorsey took Tyrod over who exactly? Can’t wait to hear this doozy.
 
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