College Football *2015*

[scootsy]

Serious question (not trolling), but isn't throwing a punch immediate ejection in college and pros? I really don't think it matters where on the body you direct the punch. I was actually surprised to see the BYU player stay in the game once the flag was thrown. So did the refs miss a call on an ejection, or can you throw a punch and stay in the game so long as it's not thrown at somebody's head?

A flag was thrown, personal foul was called. Definitely should have been ejected. Once footage is reviewed, should be suspended for 1 game. NCAA ruling, not the obligation of the school.

 

[bigb]

Serious question (not trolling), but isn't throwing a punch immediate ejection in college and pros? I really don't think it matters where on the body you direct the punch. I was actually surprised to see the BYU player stay in the game once the flag was thrown. So did the refs miss a call on an ejection, or can you throw a punch and stay in the game so long as it's not thrown at somebody's head?

To start I'll say that the nut punch was ridiculous and stupid. The fact that every team does it (and yes, every team does do it, so to go out of your way saying BYU is dirty is just lame) is no excuse.
As far as the rule, it was my understanding that any punch is cause for ejection, but I'm not sure of that. It could be the ref didn't see it as a punch. Watching it from my couch, I was 99% sure it was, but I obviously had a different angle.

 

[fishonjazz]

Lol @ ugli's obsession. Kinda cute, tbh.
BYU is the talk of the country for, you know, the actual game, but PAC12 fans like ugli can't get over a play that involved a dude's balls. Ugli, I imagine they have counseling for that kind of problem.

I just watched the game today since i was camping Saturday night and the announcers barely even discussed the punch.
They basically just said that he threw a punch to the thigh area and got caught and the ref made the right call and then moved on with the broadcast.

Same thing with the bronco demonstrations last week (running on the field with his hands up, crowd surfing, getting choked up about taysom), they seemed to really like Bronco showing so much emotion and said that it was warranted due to the type of game they had just been through.

 

[fishonjazz]

I do not know any die hard Utah fans that still want to play byu. It's not about "being over the rivalry", everyone I know still hates byu.

It's for two reasons:

Utah has nothing to gain by beating byu because we are expected to and it would be byu's biggest game of the season, or their "Super Bowl" as Kyle Van Noy put it.

byu is a legitamitely dirty team with dozens and dozens of cheap shots over the years to prove it. This is heightened by the rivalry game aspect, and it's just not worth risking our players health.

The rivalry game will continue, but mostly because the big money (old people) donors want to see the game continue, not because the die hard fan base wants it. (I'm sure 99% of casual Utes fans want the rivalry game, but 99% of casual Jazz fans think the Jazz suck right now.)

I don't want the game to be played anymore and it has nothing to do with who wins or loses.
I hate when people act like assholes over football games.

I would love it if ute fans truly would stop caring about byu and byu fans would stop caring about the utes and everybody could just talk football and congratulate each other when either of the teams get a win.

I like happy, nice, kind, people and I like friendly discussions.
That's just me though

 

[fishonjazz]

And Utah is not dirty? Don't be a self-righteous bitch.

The utah football team is perfect. They have never done anything wrong..... Really though, no team has ever done anything remotely dirty except for byu

 

[fishonjazz]

Pretty sure it's not cool to punch people in their junk unless you are getting raped.

I agree. He was penalized though and byu was forced to punt and Boise got great field position and went down and scored and the dude who was punched did not ever even appear to be in pain. He jumped up and yelled at the refs and then stalked the sideline saying calling the byu dude names (I don't blame him)

No big deal really

 

[fishonjazz]

Why do you pretend to be a "die hard" Ute fan?? It invalidates all of your arguments because we know you are not being sincere.

If you told the truth and said that you like the Utes, but also pull for byu as an in state team, then the things you say would carry more weight.

Being a die hard means you live and die by the team. Almost everything you have said over the years about Utah sounds like, "hey, I'm a Huge Utes fan, but I gotta give props to the cougs here."

Your angle is very obvious bro.

I'm a huge byu fan who always gives props to the utes and compliments their team and players often.

Some people have a rare ability to control their emotions and use critical thinking, logic, and even compassion when discussing/watching college football games.

 

[fishonjazz]

Not at all. Read the thread this is what I wanted to happen. UCLA beating BYU is more meaningful if they're ranked. BYU probably won't drop out of the poll by losing to 10th ranked UCLA and will spend the following weekend in Michigan. Michigan beats BYU and jumps into the rankings at 25. BYU being ranked is good for Utah.

I think ucla will win pretty easily and knock byu from the polls..... I think the magic runs out in that game.

I think byu might beat Michigan though.... Will be a close game imo

 

[fishonjazz]

Uh... A Utah player(Paul) hit the QB late and Ute fans in the UofU thread were unanimous that he shouldn't have done that. A BYU player hits a Boise St. player in the nuts and BYU fans in this thread are supporting it. Who's "douchey"?

Why did you say byu fans (plural) support it? Thriller is one person.

Be a little bit honest at least

 

[fishonjazz]

I look at it from a different perspective. Once Utah moved to the PAC 12, things changed and it's not about Utah being "too good" or "above" the rivalry.

The fact is, Utah is one of the strange exceptions that has an in-state rival not in their conference, added with the fact that they have to play 9 conference games. South Carolina and Clemson are an example of in-state rivals in different conferences, but they both get the luxury of having 4 non conference games.

I am willing to move on from tradition if it helps Utah. From a recruiting angle, I'd rather schedule non conference games against teams from Texas (a series with Baylor is on the books in a few years), Florida, Cali, the Midwest, etc. I think it helps expand Utah's recruiting footprint and program exposure. Utah also wants to make scheduling 7 home games the norm each year. They're not there yet but playing the in-state schools with home and home agreements makes that hard to do.

Utah is still new to their conference and in the midst of forging new rivalries and new traditions. I think the overwhelming majority of Ute fans have enjoyed having Michigan on the schedule the past two seasons and would have no problems if that type of scheduling was able to continue. I'd also argue that Utah hasn't hurt their brand one bit the last 2 seasons. In fact, it's probably stronger than it's ever been and that's without you know who on the schedule.

Great post.
I get why utah doesn't really want to play byu.... They have enough challenging games on their schedule already built in every year.

Byu on the other hand is always trying to get a better schedule so of course they want to play a solid program like utah.

 

[fishonjazz]

Over the course of a recent decade:

Awesome

 

[fishonjazz]

What does this have anything to do with being dirty? That nut punch was not called, I believe.

It was called.
Fail