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Controversial YouTube video seems to show a non-human

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Catchall said:
So you think I'm "programmed" to believe in the existence of non-human entities living on this earth, that there is simply no other way I could come to such a conclusion, that I'm simply and obviously wrong on this topic, and that I'm obviously trying to impose a false reality on others? You've lept to quite a conclusion. Going down this path, and since it's for my own good, who would you venture to say obviously programmed me?
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I can probably write books about the answer to that question! But I'm hesitant to even attempt a comprehensive answer for a couple of reasons. First, I'm not sure it'd be worthwhile. Most people lose much of their neuro-plasticity before they leave their 30s, and it doesn't make sense to expend effort to craft a good response, if it ends up unrequited. Secondly, half-time is pretty short.

However, I'll elaborate briefly.

People, in general, are not trained in the correct methods of obtaining knowledge and explanations in their daily lives. People do apply those methods in many professions (what we call scientific), but very few apply it to their understanding of the world at large. That is why you have billions who believe practically the same thing their parents believe, and they believe so strongly that they're willing to die to defend their beliefs. Yet, none of them can even explain WHY they believe. It is always about "faith" and "just knowing" and so on. It is because of an astonishing happenstance, where a naturally evolved species awoke from animal automation, and found themselves in a dangerous unforgiving universe, that almost seemed incomprehensible. Apes who gained the ability to question their place in the cosmos! And as answers proved difficult to attain, people started making up their own answers. And since those were the ONLY answers, cultures evolved to accept such behavior as "normal".

It did not help that Plato and his philosophy managed to utterly infiltrate and dominate human thought for thousands of years. It was so potent that, for all intents and purposes, the educated minority (in the West and Near East) was wholly platonic in ideology. And so it was until the Renaissance. At that time, legitimate knowledge was reborn and became integrated into more and more systems. In 500 years, the world changed vastly more than it did in the previous 10000. All with the idea that the only useful knowledge is one based on evidence and that mechanistically follows causal logic.

Unfortunately, the foundation of culture that was built through EONS could not transform in a few hundred years. So while we have more elements of science and logic, we still have the magic of old.

In your alien example, your position is very modern in that way. Back in the day, a sighting of a strange looking man will simply be explained away as a demon or a devil or such. A non-explanation that satisfies the audience as long as they're not directly confronted by whatever they're trying to explain away. Nowadays, only a very small group of people would openly make that assumption. You need a basis of truth now. Aliens are indeed more plausible than demons. They are just creatures who emerged on different worlds, and achieved superior knowledge. That's within the constraints of reality. The camera sync thing is also based in reality. Camera do exist, and they do have a refresh rate. Your explanation however is just as meaningless and made up as an ancient Greek insisting he saw Athena walking down an isolated path. It is just a mosaic of possibilities stitched to conform to what you want to be true.

In other words, your claim of "out of sync with camera" exist solely to explain an aspect of the story that you desire. You could not begin to explain what it means to be invisible to ****loads of people around you, and yet out of sync with the camera. It is a string of words that SOUNDS kind of plausible if you're not paying attention, but they don't have any actual meaning. Additionally, you make a mountain of assumptions. Let's ignore the fact that aliens look a lot like humans and dress in suits even though they're invisible to non-cameras, you're proceeding on the assumption that aliens exist. That they secretly visit the earth. That they take interest in our political affairs. And so on and so forth. None of those things are consistent with any verifiable knowledge. It's simply the story that you like. My suggestion is entirely based in consensus reality. We all agree that people exist, and that they can get injured. And yet, It's just an example of a possibility. Maybe the explanation is something else. But whatever it is, it will be logical, falsifiable, and verifiable.

Time to go back to the game.
 
Catchall said:
Here are what I see as being the distinct possibilities:

1) It's a horribly disfigured soldier (burn victim) who has effectively lost his nose, ears, lips and other primary facial features, while also having some sort of skin condition (to be determined) that leaves his skin tone to be greenish gray. Yet, his condition does not render him unable to perform his professional responsibilities. Perhaps there is a fully functioning ear on the other side of his head, or perhaps his role does not require him to wear an earpiece.

2) It's a hoax made by a skilled post-production artist who edited the footage prior to broadcast (assuming it's not a live broadcast) and somehow it got by the executive producer and other staff.

3) It's a non-human entity that has regular dealings with the U.S. executive branch, including the President's security detail, and whose normal method of disguise is not currently functioning. Moreover, his role is so commonplace among the other security personnel and perhaps attendees who can see him, that it doesn't stop the progress of the press event or even raise much if any alarm.

4) It's a non-human entity that has regular dealings with the U.S. executive branch, including the President's security detail, and whose normal method of disguise is currently functioning well enough to deceive the attendees, but is out of synch with the frame-rate (or high-pixel resolution?) of the news camera that is filming him.


That didn't take a lifetime to lay out. If there are any other possibilities, please feel free to suggest them.
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No, looks like you covered all of them. I can't think of any other explanation. Aliens. Thank God we people like yourself on the watchtower for us.
 
Shows over folks....was fun while it lasted....he's just a boring pleiadian that looks just like you and I.

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SiroMar said:
I can probably write books about the answer to that question! But I'm hesitant to even attempt a comprehensive answer for a couple of reasons. First, I'm not sure it'd be worthwhile. Most people lose much of their neuro-plasticity before they leave their 30s, and it doesn't make sense to expend effort to craft a good response, if it ends up unrequited. Secondly, half-time is pretty short.

However, I'll elaborate briefly.

People, in general, are not trained in the correct methods of obtaining knowledge and explanations in their daily lives. People do apply those methods in many professions (what we call scientific), but very few apply it to their understanding of the world at large. That is why you have billions who believe practically the same thing their parents believe, and they believe so strongly that they're willing to die to defend their beliefs. Yet, none of them can even explain WHY they believe. It is always about "faith" and "just knowing" and so on. It is because of an astonishing happenstance, where a naturally evolved species awoke from animal automation, and found themselves in a dangerous unforgiving universe, that almost seemed incomprehensible. Apes who gained the ability to question their place in the cosmos! And as answers proved difficult to attain, people started making up their own answers. And since those were the ONLY answers, cultures evolved to accept such behavior as "normal".

It did not help that Plato and his philosophy managed to utterly infiltrate and dominate human thought for thousands of years. It was so potent that, for all intents and purposes, the educated minority (in the West and Near East) was wholly platonic in ideology. And so it was until the Renaissance. At that time, legitimate knowledge was reborn and became integrated into more and more systems. In 500 years, the world changed vastly more than it did in the previous 10000. All with the idea that the only useful knowledge is one based on evidence and that mechanistically follows causal logic.

Unfortunately, the foundation of culture that was built through EONS could not transform in a few hundred years. So while we have more elements of science and logic, we still have the magic of old.

In your alien example, your position is very modern in that way. Back in the day, a sighting of a strange looking man will simply be explained away as a demon or a devil or such. A non-explanation that satisfies the audience as long as they're not directly confronted by whatever they're trying to explain away. Nowadays, only a very small group of people would openly make that assumption. You need a basis of truth now. Aliens are indeed more plausible than demons. They are just creatures who emerged on different worlds, and achieved superior knowledge. That's within the constraints of reality. The camera sync thing is also based in reality. Camera do exist, and they do have a refresh rate. Your explanation however is just as meaningless and made up as an ancient Greek insisting he saw Athena walking down an isolated path. It is just a mosaic of possibilities stitched to conform to what you want to be true.

In other words, your claim of "out of sync with camera" exist solely to explain an aspect of the story that you desire. You could not begin to explain what it means to be invisible to ****loads of people around you, and yet out of sync with the camera. It is a string of words that SOUNDS kind of plausible if you're not paying attention, but they don't have any actual meaning. Additionally, you make a mountain of assumptions. Let's ignore the fact that aliens look a lot like humans and dress in suits even though they're invisible to non-cameras, you're proceeding on the assumption that aliens exist. That they secretly visit the earth. That they take interest in our political affairs. And so on and so forth. None of those things are consistent with any verifiable knowledge. It's simply the story that you like. My suggestion is entirely based in consensus reality. We all agree that people exist, and that they can get injured. And yet, It's just an example of a possibility. Maybe the explanation is something else. But whatever it is, it will be logical, falsifiable, and verifiable.

Time to go back to the game.
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What you say above makes sense, but doesn't apply here. Nice effort though. Whatever conclusions I draw from the video and posted were not drawn in isolation, as there are a number of factors and other evidence considered. You have literally zero information about what other sources of information I and others considered. But fair enough, you're entitled to make your own conclusions.
 
Catchall said:
What you say above makes sense, but doesn't apply here. Nice effort though. Whatever conclusions I draw from the video and posted were not drawn in isolation, as there are a number of factors and other evidence considered. You have literally zero information about what other sources of information I and others considered. But fair enough, you're entitled to make your own conclusions.
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As much as I'd hate to miss your alien abduction story, the explanation for the video was posted above, and the subject is done. Well, it's done as far as I'm concerned, at least. For some, I'm sure the explanation is just part of the cover up.
 
TheSilencer1313 said:
Haha I'm right here man. Sorry, I was too busy drinking beer and watching the game.
On a side note.... I don't give any kind of alien conspiracies or reptilian conversations much of a thought.
I try to focus on things that actually have merit/evidence.
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To be fair, you only get crazy when it comes to science. Most of your opinions in other areas are informed and pretty rational, regardless of whether I share them or not.
 
SiroMar said:
As much as I'd hate to miss your alien abduction story, the explanation for the video was posted above, and the subject is done. Well, it's done as far as I'm concerned, at least. For some, I'm sure the explanation is just part of the cover up.
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Alas, no spectacular alien abduction story to share, but by all means categorically dismiss what I might know sight unseen.

Regarding the second video, I agree with you there. The second video was posted 9 days after the original and a full week after controversy started. There is minimal correlation to the original video, given that no correction can be made to the original camera angle and especially given that this character in question now has a somewhat more normal face, including a nose and ears that were absent before, plus different body language. The "Crazy Train" Ozzy Osborne sound track is a nice touch.

Draw your own conclusions. You think I'm crazy or easily duped or whatnot. Fair enough.
 
Catchall said:
Alas, no spectacular alien abduction story to share, but by all means categorically dismiss what I might know sight unseen.

Regarding the second video, I agree with you there. The second video was posted 9 days after the original and a full week after controversy started. There is minimal correlation to the original video, given that no correction can be made to the original camera angle and especially given that this character in question now has a somewhat more normal face, including a nose and ears that were absent before, plus different body language. The "Crazy Train" Ozzy Osborne sound track is a nice touch.

Draw your own conclusions. You think I'm crazy or easily duped or whatnot. Fair enough.
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But isn't amazing how I can predict your responses so well? You're a complete stranger to me. I literally know nothing about you. I'm not even sure if you're a man or a woman (most likely male, since everyone else seems to be).

Good night. :)
 
so wtf, is it an alien or not? i just read 4 pages of utter ******** and i still dont know if its an alien.
 
I'll sum up the thread this way....

I'm saying it's likely.

Siro is saying that's impossible and I'm deluded.

Others are saying -- wtf is that.
 
SiroMar said:
But isn't amazing how I can predict your responses so well? You're a complete stranger to me. I literally know nothing about you. I'm not even sure if you're a man or a woman (most likely male, since everyone else seems to be).

Good night. :)
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It does seem like you're quite motivated to jump in and refute this without question, and it seems you might literally have had some training to do so, but that's just me.
 
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