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Core 5 Judgement thread (no snap fitness here)

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Since we all have our views on each of this young core this thread is to vent. The who're shipping seems to be out of control. But, you also have to write a positive for each negative.

Hayward
negative- for the minutes and him being the OC (original core) he does not pass the eyeball test as more than a 6th man on a championship team

positive - his deal is up

Favors
negative- has the offensive game of a young Darko Milic

positive- athleticism

Kanter
negative- can't jump even on a trampoline

positive- great on offense arguably best on the team

Burks
negative- streaky shooter for a two

positive- killer instinct when it comes to attacking the rim

Burke
negative- too small without the speed

positive- he does have some type of smooth clutch shooting at the end of games
 
I really like what I've seen out of kanter, favors, and burks. No homo

But don't like what I've seen out of JR Burke (who is a chuck first and second and then maybe pass third pg)

And I really do think Andrei Hayward is what SVG described him as: An athletic wing who Can't shoot. I think his poor work ethic and toughness have really manifested themselves this year. Hayward, like Kirilenko relies solely on his athleticism and instincts rather than actually work out hard to develop fundamentals and go to moves. It takes time and real effort to develop a shot and moves. You can't do that if you're glued to video games and raiding Indiana preschools.
 
I really like what I've seen out of kanter, favors, and burks. No homo

But don't like what I've seen out of JR Burke (who is a chuck first and second and then maybe pass third pg)

And I really do think Andrei Hayward is what SVG described him as: An athletic wing who Can't shoot. I think his poor work ethic and toughness have really manifested themselves this year. Hayward, like Kirilenko relies solely on his athleticism and instincts rather than actually work out hard to develop fundamentals and go to moves. It takes time and real effort to develop a shot and moves. You can't do that if you're glued to video games and raiding Indiana preschools.
Agree on Favors and Burks. I'm mixed on Kanter. Maybe need to evaluate under a different coach and system to see if flaws can be fixed. Hayward is trying to do too much in a contract year. Reign him back in next season and have him get back to 45%/40% which was his career avg prior to this season.

As for Trey, thus far I've been unimpressed. But other PG's have taken a big jump forward after their first year. The concern is that he's always going to be short and he's not very quick. That's not a good combination.
 
"no snap fitness"??

Is OP a Euro dude? Never got that impression before.

No idea wtf "no snap fitness" is supposed to mean
 
For a 6'11" 260 lb. dude, Kanter's athleticism is decent. He's showing that he's a 20-point scorer who plays within the flow of the game and doesn't completely suck on defense.

Burks is showing he can score on his own and make good passes. His distance shooting isn't ideal, but he can be a starting SG. His game is developing to be a bit like Manu's.

Favors battles on the boards, defends pretty well and scores around the rim. That's about it.

I don't know what to say about Hayward right now. He does some great things, but he's been inconsistent to say the least.
 
I trust Kanter's ability to improve. It will come with playing time.

Hayward can't create for himself, and that's OK...it's just a shame that hes commanding over 10 mil a year.

I like Burks the most, he's cool!

I didn't like Burke before the draft, I was kinda glad we got him just because everyone was hyped about him. I don't think he's good enough and if Smart is the BPA, I'd pick him.

Who knows though, maybe our next coach uses our players better or something
 
For a 6'11" 260 lb. dude, Kanter's athleticism is decent. He's showing that he's a 20-point scorer who plays within the flow of the game and doesn't completely suck on defense.

Burks is showing he can score on his own and make good passes. His distance shooting isn't ideal, but he can be a starting SG. His game is developing to be a bit like Manu's.

Favors battles on the boards, defends pretty well and scores around the rim. That's about it.

I don't know what to say about Hayward right now. He does some great things, but he's been inconsistent to say the least.

Burks has that Ginobili-esque euro-step.
 
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