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Current Players Draft First Round: Howard vs. Hack

Who would win in a 7-game series?


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Howard's Team

Russell Westbrook / Elfrid Payton
Khris Middleton / Victor Oladipo
Otto Porter / Danilo Gallinari
Serge Ibaka / Markieff Morris
Chris Bosh / Brook Lopez

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Hack's Team

Kyrie Irving/ Zach Lavine
Kevin Martin/ Mario Hezonja
Chandler Parsons/ Shabazz Muhammad
Anthony Davis/ Terrence Jones
Derrick Favors / Mason Plumlee


Howard's Case:

PG: Russ - 28.1 ppg/8.6 apg/7.3rpg
The NBA LEADER in points with 28.1 a game, he threw in 8.6 assists and 7.3 rebounds per game. Stud. Gets to the line at will, but can create as well. Post all star game he put up 31/10/9. I don't even need to comment on that. Oh and did I mention he's a good defender?! Irving might be talented on offense, but he's a sieve on defense, and Westbrook will take advantage of him big time. Oh and did I mention he as the NBA leader in PER? He's kinda good.

SG: Khris Middleton - 13.4 ppg/2.3 apg/4.4rpg
Owner of a big new contract, this guy is still underrated. Prototypical 3 and D guy, he's going to help shut down one of Hack's only scorers in Kevin Martin. Now his numbers may not look great, but let's not forget that after the all star break when he got 35 minutes, he was putting up 17/4/3 on good shooting numbers while playing phenomenal defense. Opposing players shot 39% against Middleton, 32% on 3's. So Kevin Martin, who doesn't play defense is matched up with this guy?! Not even close.

SF: Otto Porter - 6 ppg/1 apg/3 rpg
This is my surprise starter, and it's for a very good reason. Parsons is like Hayward-lite. He can run the offense, do a lot of things pretty decently, but not great at anything. I need a good defender on him. That's where Porter comes in to play. Dude can play defense, (Shaqtin' moment aside). Porter finally got big minutes in the playoffs where he put up about 10 and 8 while shooting 37.5% from 3. His most important contribution was defense though. He had an offensive rating of 115 and defensive rating of 101 during the playoffs. Pretty damn good, and he's only going to get better. Now let's talk about his playoff defense...he held opposing players to 38% shooting!! 29% on 3's. And he played against Atlanta, a team known for their shooting. So yeah, Parsons is good, but he's not scoring much against a proven playoff defender.

PF: Serge Ibaka -14 ppg/8 rpg/2.4 bpg
Serge Ibaka is the 2nd best rim defender behind a guy we know quite well, Rudy Gobert. Ibaka's rim FG% allowed is 40.8%. That's insane. Throw in the fact that he shoots 38% from deep on 3+ attempts a game, and you have a very unique player. He's quite possibly the best 3rd fiddle in the league. Interestingly enough, when Durant went down he started putting up 17 and 9.4, he can ball when given the chance. Him and Favors will be a great matchup, but I think the fact that Ibaka can stretch out to the 3-pt line and hit his FT's at a good rate give Ibaka the edge.

C: Chris Bosh - 21 ppg/ 7 rpg/ 2.2 apg
Bosh is one of the most versatile post players in the league. He also shot 38% from 3's on about 4 attempts a game...not too shabby. Has one of the best midrange shots in the league. I'm putting Bosh on Davis because Bosh is probably my weakest defender, and well, Davis is gonna get his no matter what. I have plus defenders on all of his other players...quite frankly, I'm going to let Davis get his and he won't win this series by himself. And let's not act like Bosh won't score. Davis allows 49% of shots at the rim to go in. Sure he gets some blocked shots, but he's an overrated defender. Bosh will stretch Davis from the paint and open the lanes up.

Bench:
PG: Elfrid Payton - 9 ppg/ 6.5 apg/ 4.3 rpg/ 1.7 spp
Payton was a great defender for a rookie. He can't shoot worth a ****, but he can do everything else well. Great backup, especially with a lineup full of shooters. Put up 11/8/5 post all-star break.

SG: Victor Oladipo - 18/4/4
I'm letting Dipo and Payton team up again. Dipo is one of the best young SG's in the league. He has an improving shot, but his bread and butter is getting to the rim. Plays pretty solid defense. He's going to be a great scorer off the bench and occasional starter depending on matchup.

SF: Danilo Gallinari - 12/4/1.4
Gallinari's numbers are misleading. As a starter he put up 18/5/2 while shooting 40% from deep. A very underrated player, he's going to get me big buckets off the bench.

PF: Markieff Morris- 15/6
Another floor stretcher, Morris can shoot the 3 and adds a toughness that any team could use.

C: Brook Lopez- 17/7/2
Steal of the draft here. Put up 20/9/2 in the playoffs, and pretty much averaged that after the all star break as well. If Bosh struggles at all against Davis, Lopez is going in. Lopez will physically dominate any backup that Hack has, and would do damn well against Davis too.

Strategy: As you can see, everybody in my starting lineup can shoot 3's. The worst shooter is probably Russ, which actually works out well. His game is driving the ball, and what does having a lineup full of shooters do? It opens up the lane. Hack can keep Favors or Davis in the paint, but Russ will kick it to an open Bosh or Ibaka who are excellent corner 3 shooters. Porter is a solid shooter, and Middleton is a very good shooter who can create a little offense of his own. Bosh may be getting old, but very few bigs have his offensive repertoire. Him and Russ will be my main offensive guys. My bench is freaking awesome. Payton is a great distributor, plays solid defense, and will get it to my playmakers. Oladipo will be starting on occasion, he's a good all around player. He can shoot it a bit, can drive if, dish it, defend, he can do a little of everything. Gallinari is a really good offensive 3, one of the best in the league tbh. Morris lacks in some areas, but he can spread the court which is a huge part of my strategy. And that leaves us with Lopez. When he's on the court, the offense is going through him. A dominant post scorer, not even Davis is going to stop him, and Favors just isn't strong enough to get good position on Lopez. If Bosh struggles, Lopez is going in ASAP.

In summary, my bench is a ton better than Hack's, and my starters will lock down his sans Davis. He doesn't have anybody that can stop my perimeter players. I have the better overall team, and quite frankly, it isn't that close.


Hack's Case:

My team is going to play Quin Snyder style of basketball. My team will counter anything that Howard tries and dominate his team.
 
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My team is a better 3 point shooting team. Everyone but Mason Plumlee, Davis, and Favors can shoot the 3 really well. But even Favors and Davis will be shooting 3's this year.

Also, my team is much more athletic. Westbrook is just going to ball hog all day.
 
Westbrook > Irving
Middleton > Martin
Porter < Parsons, but it's close
Ibaka > Favors
Bosh < Davis

And my bench is better. I have a more cohesive team. I have the better defensive team. I have better shooting. Better playmaking. My team is flat out better.
 
I'm surprised by the result so far. I thought it was a very good matchup, and expected it to be a lot closer.
 
Guys, how is Hack going to score? His best player is Davis and the only person who can actually pass the ball is Parsons, who is covered by my best perimeter defender. Irving doesn't play defense and sucks at passing for a PG, Martin is a black hole, and Favors doesn't exactly pass well either.

Realistically, my defense blankets everybody except Davis and kind of Irving. Those guys aren't going to get 100 on their own, and let's be honest, Favors will struggle with Ibaka.
 
Irving kind of sucks and didn't win any games til Lebron.

Kevin Martin played in less than half of the games last year and is only getting older. His season with the Thunder he was awful in the playoffs.

I think Howard;s team is better constructed around his star, Westbrook, than Hack's is around Davis.
 
Irving kind of sucks and didn't win any games til Lebron.

Kevin Martin played in less than half of the games last year and is only getting older. His season with the Thunder he was awful in the playoffs.

I think Howard;s team is better constructed around his star, Westbrook, than Hack's is around Davis.

Irving sucks? Good one.

Martin came back at the end of the year last year and put up monster numbers. He's not too old either.
 
Guys, how is Hack going to score? His best player is Davis and the only person who can actually pass the ball is Parsons, who is covered by my best perimeter defender. Irving doesn't play defense and sucks at passing for a PG, Martin is a black hole, and Favors doesn't exactly pass well either.

Realistically, my defense blankets everybody except Davis and kind of Irving. Those guys aren't going to get 100 on their own, and let's be honest, Favors will struggle with Ibaka.

Lol.

I don't think my team will have trouble scoring.

It's actually perfectly set up to score a lot especially in the Modern day NBA. I have really good shooters 1-5, and they all can score in a variety of ways. I don't need a Stockton type floor general for my offense. It's very Spurs like and Quin Snyder type of offense.

Favors has surpassed Ibaka. He's a better player, and he's bigger. Do you hate the Jazz?
 
You think you can have a Spurs type offebse with Irving and Martin as your lead guards? Cmon now. And as much as I love Favors, Ibaka is better. Better rim defender, better shooter, better defender in general.
 
Favors and Davis absolutely dominate this game. Martin and Parsons open shots for days. Kyrie has good pick and roll options with the bigs. Howard has the better bench but in a must win game or playoff setting who cares about the bench, they dont matter much unless you have no bench.
 
Favors and Davis absolutely dominate this game. Martin and Parsons open shots for days. Kyrie has good pick and roll options with the bigs. Howard has the better bench but in a must win game or playoff setting who cares about the bench, they dont matter much unless you have no bench.

How are Martin and Parsons getting open shots against two of the best perimeter defenders in the league? Favors dominating Ibaka? Irving isn't even good at finding the roll option! Good grief.
 
How are Martin and Parsons getting open shots against two of the best perimeter defenders in the league? Favors dominating Ibaka? Irving isn't even good at finding the roll option! Good grief.

Only thing Ibaka is better at than Favors is open jump shots. Favors is a better offensive player all around and there defense albeit different is about the same.

Sorry Khris Middelton is a bad 1v1 defender. He is far to unathletic to stay in front of guys. He is a decent team defender but not great. Stats made him look better than he is. He got benched for his ****ty defense this year and has been known as a really poor defender until this year when the team defense around him made him look decent.

Parsons is better than Otto. also Otto likes to stare into space :)

I do think Russell Westbrook is better than Kyrie but will lose games for you and play hero ball with that lineup.
 
Middleton's opponents shot 39% against him (average was 45%), and this guy says he's a bad 1 on 1 defender. No wonder I'm losing, people don't actually know anything.
 
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