Live over on the East coast & watched a good bit of Hawks games...Collins is nowhere near that bad on defense. 15th in the nba on block % with a positive DPIPM / DRPM & had a 46 DFG%. Hes just stuck on a poor defensive team.
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If it's more about bitch babies then you're in trouble paring him with Paul George...
Ashley you left Chicago off the list. He's had major issues with every team so far. Miami is a matter of time.
Shocked at the voting
I'm not surprised at all. I have a lot of players that dont get the respect they deserve but I expected that. Honestly I drafted most of this team based on next season. The only way to validate my team will be after next year. Next year my team is better than his, but even this year its close. But its hard for people to project to next year.
De'Aaron fox 22 years old VS Brogdon 27 years old.
Pretty much every stat shows De'Aaron Fox is a better player and will greatly improve going forward.
https://www.basketball-reference.co...gdon&y2=2020&player_id2=brogdma01&idx=players
Shai (21) vs Butler (30)
Butler is on the decline and Shai is quickly improving at a really young age. Butler is really good all around and Shai is a much better shooter. Butler is shooting 25% from 3! Both are about the same at scoring. Both are pretty good rebounders. Butler is a better at creating and defense. But Butler has been run out of town 3X by teams. I think by the end of next year this one will be an advantage for Shai. Shai is the leading scorer on a team with the same record as Butler. Butler is in an easier conference and has more talent around him.
https://www.basketball-reference.co...tler&player_id2=butleji01&idx=players&y2=2020
Gallinari vs Paul George vs Oubre
I give the advantage to Paul George here over both but it isnt that big. George is not playing that well this year and has choked multiple times in the playoffs. All 3 players are around the same PPG, Oubre is the best passer, Gallinari is the best shooter, Oubre and George are the best defenders. Advanced stats say Gallinari is the best player of the 3 this year. He has the best Win Shares, Net Rating, and VORP. Next year I think George and Gallinari get a little worse and Oubre gets better.
https://www.basketball-reference.co...Danilo+Gallinari&player_id3=gallida01&y3=2020
Siakam vs Collins
This one is as big of a gap at seems. Collins is becoming pretty good but he isnt near what Siakam is on both ends of the court.
https://www.basketball-reference.co...akam&player_id2=siakapa01&idx=players&y2=2020
KAT vs Turner
Both young players and improving. But this one isnt close. KAT is an incredible player but stuck on a really bad team. KATs team is much much better when he is on the court. Put him next to a high energy all around great player like Siakam and he would destroy teams especially with 4 good shooters around him.
https://www.basketball-reference.co...rner&player_id2=turnemy01&idx=players&y2=2020
Pretty much every stat shows De'Aaron Fox is a better player and will greatly improve going forward.
https://www.basketball-reference.co...gdon&y2=2020&player_id2=brogdma01&idx=players
Shai (21) vs Butler (30)
Butler is on the decline and Shai is quickly improving at a really young age. Butler is really good all around and Shai is a much better shooter. Butler is shooting 25% from 3! Both are about the same at scoring. Both are pretty good rebounders. Butler is a better at creating and defense. But Butler has been run out of town 3X by teams. I think by the end of next year this one will be an advantage for Shai. Shai is the leading scorer on a team with the same record as Butler. Butler is in an easier conference and has more talent around him.
https://www.basketball-reference.co...tler&player_id2=butleji01&idx=players&y2=2020
Gallinari vs Paul George vs Oubre
I give the advantage to Paul George here over both but it isnt that big. George is not playing that well this year and has choked multiple times in the playoffs. All 3 players are around the same PPG, Oubre is the best passer, Gallinari is the best shooter, Oubre and George are the best defenders. Advanced stats say Gallinari is the best player of the 3 this year. He has the best Win Shares, Net Rating, and VORP. Next year I think George and Gallinari get a little worse and Oubre gets better.
https://www.basketball-reference.co...Danilo+Gallinari&player_id3=gallida01&y3=2020
Siakam vs Collins
This one is as big of a gap at seems. Collins is becoming pretty good but he isnt near what Siakam is on both ends of the court.
https://www.basketball-reference.co...akam&player_id2=siakapa01&idx=players&y2=2020
KAT vs Turner
Both young players and improving. But this one isnt close. KAT is an incredible player but stuck on a really bad team. KATs team is much much better when he is on the court. Put him next to a high energy all around great player like Siakam and he would destroy teams especially with 4 good shooters around him.
https://www.basketball-reference.co...rner&player_id2=turnemy01&idx=players&y2=2020
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He comes and goes but he is a pretty funny guy in SLC I think.
I havent met him in real life. But based on his home life he posts about he does not wear any pants at home. But that doesnt answer your question. Side note I am never sure why someone would lock them into one thing. Why not go for both. I mean I dont identify as doggie, missionary, or whatever. I like to mix it up....
I can answer... be a man. Pitcher.. all the way. This cesspool of earth is awful.
Beer
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Outside of his 1 game flop against the Jazz where does this rep come from? He averaged 29, 9 and 4 in the playoffs last year. Sure they got beat but that wasn't on him.
Year before he averaged 25, 6 and 4 in the playoffs.
Year before 28, 9 and 7
Before that 27, 8 and 4
Then we can compare him to KAT ..........
NADA, other than crying because Jimmy Butler was mean to him.