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Dallas Mavericks @ Utah Jazz GAME THREAD (Airing on TNT, January 19th, 2012 - 8:30 pm Utah time)

If you are expecting more out of Kanter, you are going to be disapointed. The guy hasn't really played much real ball in 2 years, and he's only 19.

we can see the potential, but it takes time. But if you think he could have won the game for us tonight....

but then there are people here who think he should be getting Jefferson's minutes.

amazing.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I would have gone with Miles, but I understand putting Bell in. Burks had lost Beabouis twice in the 4th that directly led to buckets. I definitely don't trust Burks to execute the offense in the final minutes of a huge game, nor to play strong D. Kind of the same with Miles, but he was playing great ball that game, so I would have gone with him.
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I will never understand how anyone can justify putting Bell in. He contributes nothing. If he's paired with another wing player who can score AND he specifically matches up best against a player, I get it.

Bell does not play enough defense to justify the negative impact he has on the offense. Ever. I understand Bell as an occasional spot up defender which is what he should be. But the idea that we NEED Bell to play 25 minutes a night is lunacy.
 
InGameStrategy said:
C'mon, Cyrone; you're better than that. Kanter was showing inexperience; the effort was there, and the talent is there. He hit two free throws. He pulled down almost as many RBs in 13 minutes as AJ did in more than twice as much time. He was slightly anxious on that goaltend, and he needs more burn to figure out how to score around the rim. Kanter's performance was promising, if anything.
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I just was saying what people outside the Jazz are saying about him that have watched the TNT games. Not my personal thoughts on him.
 
billyshelby said:
I will never understand how anyone can justify putting Bell in. He contributes nothing. If he's paired with another wing player who can score AND he specifically matches up best against a player, I get it.

Bell does not play enough defense to justify the negative impact he has on the offense. Ever. I understand Bell as an occasional spot up defender which is what he should be. But the idea that we NEED Bell to play 25 minutes a night is lunacy.
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That's exactly why the "conventional wisdom" (advanced by Phil Johnson and imitated by Ty tonight) of putting the starters back in (no matter how well or poorly they have done) is flawed if the starters aren't the best combination on a given night.
 
If Rick Carlise subbed like IGS wanted, we would have won the game. Carlise would have benched Terry for being 1 of 12 before the last 2 minutes of the game. Then he wouldn't have hit that huge 3.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I just was saying what people outside the Jazz are saying about him that have watched the TNT games. Not my personal thoughts on him.
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... except that you posted that "He is like a Deer in headlights under the rim, yet he is as big as everyone else on the court." as if it were your opinion--or most likely interpretable as such.
 
InGameStrategy said:
... except that you posted that "He is like a Deer in headlights under the rim, yet he is as big as everyone else on the court." as if it were your opinion--or most likely interpretable as such.
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Yeah, he is a deer in the headlights when he is under the rim. I don't know how anyone can disagree with that at this point. I don't think he is a stiff though. I just think he is scared or something.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Yeah, he is a deer in the headlights when he is under the rim. I don't know how anyone can disagree with that at this point. I don't think he is a stiff though. I just think he is scared or something.
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Agree 100%. In the first game of the season Kanter had a couple of gimme's at the rim that were blocked. With big guys, sometimes they get a couple of their shots blocked and they lose confidence and start quick-shooting, pump-faking automatically, or putting the ball on the floor to gather themselves rather than just finish naturally. Similar to a quarterbacks with no confidence in their pass protection...once they drop their eye level and start focusing on the passrush - as a defense you know it's over. Kanter just needs to a little more natural feel and confidence around the basket, know when to go up strong with 2 hands and when to get it up quickly with one.

Also I think he has some good low-post moves, but his footwork is pretty choppy as well. There's alot to like about his offensive game, but right now it's just in bits and pieces and he's yet to smooth it all together.
 
Kanter's rim problems will easily get fixed. What's important is that he's getting the offensive rebound. That's incredibly good for where he's at and with what he has.
I imagine they'll coach him to either pass the ball out before taking it down to his knees or going up stronger. He should never ever go low down there.
 
billyshelby said:
Why did we bring back Bell, Hayward, and Bell this game? They all stunk. Hayward was sort of OK so I can let that pass. But none of them had games that merited being on the floor in the 4th.
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Burks had no clue what the hell he was doing defensively, for starters. And the biggest mistake of the night was bringing Heaven Harris back in the game. Watson was the reason the team didn't get blown out and Harris is the reason they got in such a hole in the first place. That's saying nothing of his ****tiness down the stretch, either.
 
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