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LoPo said:
And that's why we will likely always be in the treadmill of mediocrity.

Markkenanen is a great guy and good player, but he isn't taking us anywhere. He's a 3rd option on a title team but we have to build around him like he's a #1 or #2.

We cleaned up on the Rudy deal and should have built around Don from there. We panicked and put all our chips into the draft basket.

It's quite likely that the Cleveland picks will never even be lower than #20, and just do some research on what picks #20+ end up being.
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Don literally didn't take us anywhere. Lauri might. Remains to be seen.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
If we had Donovan now the convo would be how he is leaving in two years
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We don't know that, and we never will.

Doesn't justify trading him so early anyway. There was no rush to trade him. Now everybody wants to beat their chests over getting Lauri and other assets from Cleveland which likely has kept us from the top of the lottery. Brilliant plan...
 
LoPo said:
We don't know that, and we never will.

Doesn't justify trading him so early anyway. There was no rush to trade him. Now everybody wants to beat their chests over getting Lauri and other assets from Cleveland which likely has kept us from the top of the lottery. Brilliant plan...
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Of course we know that. We know how this dance plays out. Don't act ignorant.
 
LoPo said:
We don't know that, and we never will.

Doesn't justify trading him so early anyway. There was no rush to trade him. Now everybody wants to beat their chests over getting Lauri and other assets from Cleveland which likely has kept us from the top of the lottery. Brilliant plan...
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I remember someone once told everyone here we should focus on the players we have and not talk about ones we don’t. You also act like we wouldn’t be a play-in team if we kept Mitchell and traded Gobert. We’d be in a WAY worse spot.
 
Elizah Huge said:
I remember someone once told everyone here we should focus on the players we have and not talk about ones we don’t. You also act like we wouldn’t be a play-in team if we kept Mitchell and traded Gobert. We’d be in a WAY worse spot.
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This is a thread speculating on a player we don't have. Talking about Dame is no different than talking about Donovan Mitchell.

Dame is an old, often busted up version of Donovan Mitchell. Trading for him is a dumb idea. Keeping Donovan would have been smarter. We could have used draft assets to trade for Lauri if that was the end goal and we would have been better off.
 
LoPo said:
It's quite likely that the Cleveland picks will never even be lower than #20, and just do some research on what picks #20+ end up being.
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I really wish people would stop saying this. It gets proven wrong literally every single year. Do you have any clue who will be on Cleveland’s roster in 2027-2029?
 
LoPo said:
This is a thread speculating on a player we don't have. Talking about Dame is no different than talking about Donovan Mitchell.

Dame is an old, often busted up version of Donovan Mitchell. Trading for him is a dumb idea. Keeping Donovan would have been smarter. We could have used draft assets to trade for Lauri if that was the end goal and we would have been better off.
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Why would Cleveland trade a starter for draft assets when they are trying to compete?

Also, nobody knew Lauri would be this good. Not DA or JZ either.
 
Elizah Huge said:
I really wish people would stop saying this. It gets proven wrong literally every single year. Do you have any clue who will be on Cleveland’s roster in 2027-2029?
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You're safely saying that "Don would have done this" and "Don would have done that". Don't be a hypocrite dude.

Cleveland has one of the youngest rosters in the NBA, and there is no reason to believe that they should take a step back. They would have to take 3 or 4 steps back to make it a top 10 pick.
 
LoPo said:
You're safely saying that "Don would have done this" and "Don would have done that". Don't be a hypocrite dude.

Cleveland has one of the youngest rosters in the NBA, and there is no reason to believe that they should take a step back. They would have to take 3 or 4 steps back to make it a top 10 pick.
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They'll take a step back when Donovan leaves them in free agency.
 
LoPo said:
We never built anything around him. Just another assumption you're making....
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And you are assuming if we "built something around him" he would generate a championship. That is a way bigger assumption when we already saw him melt down in crunch time again and again.
 
LoPo said:
You're safely saying that "Don would have done this" and "Don would have done that". Don't be a hypocrite dude.

Cleveland has one of the youngest rosters in the NBA, and there is no reason to believe that they should take a step back. They would have to take 3 or 4 steps back to make it a top 10 pick.
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Donovan leaves in two years and Garland or Mobley get hurt one year and they are a very bad team. It’s really not that hard to imagine. Hell, maybe Garland or Mobley ask out in 2027 after never winning much in the playoffs. Who knows.

We also stripped them of pretty much any way to get significantly better because we own all of their draft capital.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Why would Cleveland trade a starter for draft assets when they are trying to compete?

Also, nobody knew Lauri would be this good. Not DA or JZ either.
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I agree with you. Nobody knew that Lauri could play at this level.

As for Cleveland - they were committed to Mobley and maybe didn't think Lauri was needed as much.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Why would Cleveland trade a starter for draft assets when they are trying to compete?

Also, nobody knew Lauri would be this good. Not DA or JZ either.
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They missed the playoffs and Lauri wasn't a great fit with Allen/Mobley. Could've went Bogey + something for him.
 
LogGrad98 said:
And you are assuming if we "built something around him" he would generate a championship. That is a way bigger assumption when we already saw him melt down in crunch time again and again.
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Who said championship?

I think the odds of being relevant with Donovan Mitchell are as good as being relevant with all these draft picks. There's no telling what can happen.

You can keep taking shots at crunch time, but he's still the best playoff performer we've had in a long time. It's too bad we built it all around some limited center instead of clearly a star.
 
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