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Game Thread Dec 16, 2024 08:30PM MT: Utah Jazz @ LA Clippers

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Filipowski has not been even passable on defense though. Every wing and every guard can easily get by him when he is put in isolation. If Flip does not improve on that he will be unplayable.
 
Will Hardy has given up on coaching. I could say Keyonte has given up on defending, but he's never tried it in the NBA.

It's going to get even uglier from here on out as the players tune out completely with these type of games mounting. Not going to be much salvageable.
 
Filipowski has not been even passable on defense though. Every wing and every guard can easily get by him when he is put in isolation. If Flip does not improve on that he will be unplayable.
Flip is still getting his sea legs after the ankle sprain. If he's this bad in another month it's worry time.
 
The Jazz have become completely unwatchable. **** the tank.
They aren’t completely unwatchable. Reality is this is a tanking/rebuilding team. When losses pile up and you are a young team these types of bad games will happen from time to time, comes with the territory. For the most part they’ve been competitive. Sometimes too competitive.
 
They aren’t completely unwatchable. Reality is this is a tanking/rebuilding team. When losses pile up and you are a young team these types of bad games will happen from time to time, comes with the territory. For the most part they’ve been competitive. Sometimes too competitive.
There are games here and there that are.
 
The Jazz have become completely unwatchable. **** the tank.
I love the tank. Finally with 2 years delay....but have to admit that you are very brave guys if you watch all games. It's totally unwatchable... and i am not ashamed to admit that i follow all Minny games and only 30-40% of Jazz games this year. I'm getting too old to get exciting with the way we play currently. The Grin and Grind from Minny right now is just much more fun for me.
 
Then go root for another team, no room for fair weathered fans here
I've been a Jazz fan since they moved to Utah in in the 78-79 season. I'm not going to quit now. I just hate how far a once proud franchise has fallen, There are no guaranties even if we finish with the worst record in the NBA that we will get the pick we want. As a matter of fact, the Jazz have been absolutely snake bitten when it comes to lotteries and coin flips ever since coming to Utah.
 
I've been a Jazz fan since they moved to Utah in in the 78-79 season. I'm not going to quit now. I just hate how far a once proud franchise has fallen, There are no guaranties even if we finish with the worst record in the NBA that we will get the pick we want. As a matter of fact, the Jazz have been absolutely snake bitten when it comes to lotteries and coin flips ever since coming to Utah.
Unfortunately I don't think they have a choice.

They tried to be somewhat competitive the past 2 seasons and ended up with the 9th and 10th pick and might have nothing to show for it. For whatever reason the 8-10 range of the draft is just a real dead area where most prospects picked in those slots end up busting. If they end up with the worst record the worst slot they can pick is at #5. Even if they are snakebitten by the lottery balls there will still be some real quality prospects available in that area in this draft.
 
Unfortunately I don't think they have a choice.

They tried to be somewhat competitive the past 2 seasons and ended up with the 9th and 10th pick and might have nothing to show for it. For whatever reason the 8-10 range of the draft is just a real dead area where most prospects picked in those slots end up busting. If they end up with the worst record the worst slot they can pick is at #5. Even if they are snakebitten by the lottery balls there will still be some real quality prospects available in that area in this draft.
I agree with tanking, but even with a roster of lowwr caliber players, there is no reason not to play fundamental defense. You need a culture of accountability, and it will hard to change it whene you swap to win mode. One big reason why teams cycle through coaches...
 
I've been a Jazz fan since they moved to Utah in in the 78-79 season. I'm not going to quit now. I just hate how far a once proud franchise has fallen, There are no guaranties even if we finish with the worst record in the NBA that we will get the pick we want. As a matter of fact, the Jazz have been absolutely snake bitten when it comes to lotteries and coin flips ever since coming to Utah.
no need to be one of those entitled fans that think how dare this franchise do this to my team as if they are ****ing up the team. For years they ****ed the team from Boozer DWill to the handling of Hayward to trading for George hill, and Conley and signing Bogey. The one thing we did right is trade our two stars at their greatest value. Sometimes you have to tear down to build back up and make better. I’m not trying to speak ill of the Millers but they didn’t have the kahunas to actually build a true contender after the Malone and Stockton era.
 
no need to be one of those entitled fans that think how dare this franchise do this to my team as if they are ****ing up the team. For years they ****ed the team from Boozer DWill to the handling of Hayward to trading for George hill, and Conley and signing Bogey. The one thing we did right is trade our two stars at their greatest value. Sometimes you have to tear down to build back up and make better. I’m not trying to speak ill of the Millers but they didn’t have the kahunas to actually build a true contender after the Malone and Stockton era.
I'm not convinced that what the Jazz have done to this team over the last couple of years will produce anything more than what the Clippers did for 30 years with all their 1st and early round draft picks. I hope I'm wrong but they were perpetual cellar dwellers and I'm pretty sure I won't be alive to witness the rebirth if it takes that long, and yes I am and should be an entitled fan after all these years.
 
For whatever reason the 8-10 range of the draft is just a real dead area where most prospects picked in those slots end up busting.
Dyson Daniels is on his way to being one of the defenders in the league and a reliable scorer to boot. Cason Wallace is a contributor on the best team in the league. Zach Edey has been as advertised.

Maybe the Jazz front office isn't that good - when so far most of their decisions look to have failed.
 
I'm not convinced that what the Jazz have done to this team over the last couple of years will produce anything more than what the Clippers did for 30 years with all their 1st and early round draft picks. I hope I'm wrong but they were perpetual cellar dwellers and I'm pretty sure I won't be alive to witness the rebirth if it takes that long, and yes I am and should be an entitled fan after all these years.
You do realize those Clippers teams had the worst owner in sports, right? The collective nba cheered when he was run out by the nba. He didn’t care how good those teams were. This is a much better run franchise
 
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