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Game Thread Dec 20, 2023 05:00PM MT: Jazz at Cavaliers

Added to Calendar: 12-20-23

I'm as checked out as I have ever been.
When I look at the box scores this season I'm actually glad I didn't watch.
If Ainge, JZ, and Ryan Smith don't make changes by the deadline this will be the first time I've been able to rely on "highlights" for an entire season.
 
Cavs shot incredible. Some of that is defense but most of it was just really hot shooting. Lauri had a cold 4th but at least we got him the ball I'm okay losing when our star player has a rare cold game but gets his shots. I like how the team is playing now. Things are improving.
 
Every other night some dude has a career and/or record-breaking night. Absolutely no chance anything can be done about it. Solid effort, yeah. Or maybe it might a lazy, disinterested effort on defense from pretty much everyone - and it's only December still.

Just amazing to allow a wide-open 3 from a made basket @ 3 seconds left.

 
Why am I catching strays when the guy I cap for was our best player tonight?
I will do my best to apologize by recognizing that you may have been on to something with Kessler before anyone else really was.

I'm starting to see it though. The finesse game you have mentioned, but I have also noticed that if he doesnt get the angles and timing right on his contests and rebounds, he isnt getting them. He doesnt body up even stationary guys but sort of floats around them and anticipates the shots, which makes him extremely vulnerable to pump fakes. He should just play closer and stand tall between the guy and the basket instead of always trying to block with that much air between him and the shooter. He also loses way too many physical battles even when they are just about him holding on to the basketball (Cavs stole like 2-3 boards which looked like they were 100% Kessler's).

I dont know if he is just overly concerned about fouling or if he is soft.... The goofy nice guy routine paired with the finesse game kinda worries me that he may have KATs mindset paired with Rudy's skillset.
 
I will do my best to apologize by recognizing that you may have been on to something with Kessler before anyone else really was.

I'm starting to see it though. The finesse game you have mentioned, but I have also noticed that if he doesnt get the angles and timing right on his contests and rebounds, he isnt getting them. He doesnt body up even stationary guys but sort of floats around them and anticipates the shots, which makes him extremely vulnerable to pump fakes. He should just play closer and stand tall between the guy and the basket instead of always trying to block with that much air between him and the shooter. He also loses way too many physical battles even when they are just about him holding on to the basketball (Cavs stole like 2-3 boards which looked like they were 100% Kessler's).

I dont know if he is just overly concerned about fouling or if he is soft.... The goofy nice guy routine paired with the finesse game kinda worries me that he may have KATs mindset paired with Rudy's skillset.
Hopefully it's just some nagging injury.

I don't think he has a KAT mindset. He just has no confidence in his ability to go through defenders. He's too aware of his limitations to a detrimental extent.
 
Hopefully it's just some nagging injury.

I don't think he has a KAT mindset. He just has no confidence in his ability to go through defenders. He's too aware of his limitations to a detrimental extent.
Hopefully so. I'm not out on him, but he needs to start changing the way he plays before he gets stuck on playing this way forever. I mean he doesnt dunk if there is even the slightest chance someone can contest, which is the thing I hate the most.
 
Hopefully so. I'm not out on him, but he needs to start changing the way he plays before he gets stuck on playing this way forever. I mean he doesnt dunk if there is even the slightest chance someone can contest, which is the thing I hate the most.
Yeah, totally agree with the lat sentence. Its maddening. Having a no skill rim runner is a lot less fun when they don't occasionally dunk all over someone.
 
Didn't the Jazz just watch a Kings player go nuts and did the team learn nothing from that?
No they didn't learn from it. How do you stop a hot catch-and-shoot player? You take the catch away from him. Good coaches recognize it early and glue a player on a hot catch-and-shoot player to limit the damage. Hardy did put Sexton to chase Merrill, but it was too late - the damage had already been done by that point.
 
Also if this gamethread taught me anything its that HH can go full Cy if he wants to, and drop all objectivity in favor of being biased.
Bout time someone sees this I’ve been the voice of reason this year. I’m not right about everything, but on the most important things I have been. I told y’all we shouldn’t trade for Collins, I was shot down, then we traded for him, and now most are with me that was a mistake. I said we need to trade JC and certainly not start him. I was scoffed at, then proven right. Most on here thought we were a fringe playoff team, I said pump the breaks… that we aren’t that good. I was proven right. Then I said we should openly rank and get our pick back. I will be proven right, and @Handlogten's Heros has been there at every turn trying to shut me down, he has been and will continue to be proven wrong.
 
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