Game Thread Dec 26, 2023 06:00PM MT: Jazz at Spurs

[HermanG]

Hardy's "play hard and pass" and "you have to want to wear the Jazz jersey" seem like complete ******** after a game like this. Keyonte in the 3Q played some of the worst basketball of the whole season. No defense. The same turnover over and over again. Not even taking a step to get back after the turnover. No effort. Selfish and stupid.

Yeah, sure, rookies make mistakes. If a rookie doesn't give a crap and gives zero effort, why does he get a completely free pass?

And then he takes a timeout and comes out to the logo to scream at Sexton in front of everybody.

The same silly pass twice and not even a thought of getting back on D. On the second the Spur who was probably 20 ft behind George comes and scores.

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There are so many things wrong about this post....

He puts in a lot of effort on D but he just isn't very good at it. He bites to pump fakes and leaves his feet way too easily, which is a height thing as much as a rookie thing. He is also THE ONLY Jazz guard this season to draw a charge, and even though he has gotten blocking fouls called on him way more often (had 1 this game as well) it still shows that he is willing to take a hit. You dont do that if you dont care.

Btw its not surprising that Olynyk leads the team in charges drawn (5), but its quite incredible that Keyonte is 2nd with 2 while all other guards combine for 0 (FWIW Collins has 2, Samanic and Kessler both have 1).

 

[fishonjazz]

There are so many things wrong about this post....

He puts in a lot of effort on D but he just isn't very good at it. He bites to pump fakes and leaves his feet way too easily, which is a height thing as much as a rookie thing. He is also THE ONLY Jazz guard this season to draw a charge, and even though he has gotten blocking fouls called on him way more often (had 1 this game as well) it still shows that he is willing to take a hit. You dont do that if you dont care.

Btw its not surprising that Olynyk leads the team in charges drawn (5), but its quite incredible that Keyonte is 2nd with 2 while all other guards combine for 0 (FWIW Collins has 2, Samanic and Kessler both have 1).

His part of his post about Sexton getting screamed at for any mistake and Key getting very little of the same seems accurate though.

 

[Tanktastic]

There are so many things wrong about this post....

He puts in a lot of effort on D but he just isn't very good at it.

For the whole season I would agree. Yesterday he put in zero effort, completely gave up on multiple plays and simple gifted the Spurs buckets. Even veterans/starters on many NBA teams would have gotten benched, no matter what, for such awful lack of any interest.

 

[HermanG]

His part of his post about Sexton getting screamed at for any mistake and Key getting very little of the same seems accurate though.

Hardy scoffed both Keyonte and Clarkson after that play... I dont know if you both were watching the Jazz feed but in the Spurs feed the announcers said: "Will Hardy is nonplussed right now. He is not happy with the effort they are giving." The cameras didn't catch it, but it doesnt mean it didnt happen.

Besides what Sexton did was WAY worse (intentional showboating in a close game with 20 minutes left). Every single coach in the league goes super hard on their players if they do that, and some would just bench the guy without giving him another minute.

 

[HermanG]

For the whole season I would agree. Yesterday he put in zero effort, completely gave up on multiple plays and simple gifted the Spurs buckets. Even veterans/starters on many NBA teams would have gotten benched, no matter what, for such awful lack of any interest.

That is just so far from the truth. If you want to push that narrative, then explain this play:

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Why is the no effort guy the only one giving any effort while 4 statues specatate?

 

[fishonjazz]

Hardy scoffed both Keyonte and Clarkson after that play... I dont know if you both were watching the Jazz feed but in the Spurs feed the announcers said: "Will Hardy is nonplussed right now. He is not happy with the effort they are giving." The cameras didn't catch it, but it doesnt mean it didnt happen.

Besides what Sexton did was WAY worse (intentional showboating in a close game with 20 minutes left). Every single coach in the league goes super hard on their players if they do that, and some would just bench the guy without giving him another minute.

Lol. Hardy didn't scream at sexton for the dunk. It was later in the game for a minor thing.

 

[Tanktastic]

Sexton got the timeout called and screamed at not for the dunk, but for being a half-step too far from Vassell and allowing a catch & shoot 3. Which happened half an hour later than the dunk. And is something (a small slip-up on D) happens dozens of times in a game.

 

[Tanktastic]

That is just so far from the truth. If you want to push that narrative, then explain this play:

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Why is the no effort guy the only one giving any effort while 4 statues specatate?

Dude....

George completely misses his man running past him, because he's giving zero effort. If Wemby had given a half-competent pass that's on easy bucket.

The wings have their own players guarded, Lauri has Wemby, obviously. And George has to track Sochan on that play and simply does nothing.

 

[fishonjazz]

Sexton got the timeout called and screamed at not for the dunk, but for being a half-step too far from Vassell and allowing a catch & shoot 3. Which happened half an hour later than the dunk. And is something (a small slip-up on D) happens dozens of times in a game.

Ya, this.

 

[fishonjazz]

That is just so far from the truth. If you want to push that narrative, then explain this play:

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Why is the no effort guy the only one giving any effort while 4 statues specatate?

That was a weird to play to show if you are trying to show good defense by Keyonte. He left his man (who got an easy layup attempt) to guard a horrible shooter at the 3 point line who was already going to be guarded by Lauri anyway. I guess you could say it showed effort on that play but it was bad defense and deserves some criticism from coach tbh.

 

[fishonjazz]

Jazz shot 91% from the line last night. 20-22

 

[HermanG]

Dude....

George completely misses his man running past him, because he's giving zero effort. If Wemby had given a half-competent pass that's on easy bucket.

The wings have their own players guarded, Lauri has Wemby, obviously. And George has to track Sochan on that play and simply does nothing.

Dude....

Previous possession:



Thats Vassell he is defending and he tracks Vassell to the corner. How is he on Sochan on the next possessions (Clarkson is on Sochan here)?

Its a zone look where George defends PoA. Lauri is probably coming up to switch since its Wemby who takes the point but there is no way you put Sochans cut on Keyonte's responsibility in that play.