Disregard Mirotic, Aquire Favors!

[Deleted member 5000]

Once the Refs start fouling Rubio it's on like Donkey Kong

 

[NUMBERICA]

I like that Favs gives us Rudy insurance... it’s another bonus to having Favs. I’m skeptical on the corner three but he’s shooting them with no hesitation.

The Niko ship has sailed and looking at our draft position and his performance and I’m sad... has anyone seen Infection... I imagine he has gone off the rails Ron Burgandy style.

If the deal was AB and a first for Niko, which is better than they got, then we lost on that one. Better nail this pick... my guess is whoever we pick will be Infections least favorite player.

I've been thinking about this too. Think we ****ed up.

Then again, maybe Lindsay pulls some heroics.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I've been thinking about this too. Think we ****ed up.

Then again, maybe Lindsay pulls some heroics.

I think there is still a path to a deal depending on what NO is willing to spend... Obviously if Niko continues to go nuclear it aint happening.

NO will be at $129M - $134M in salary to keep it together... figures Boogie in at 25-30M and Rondo at $3M. They can stretch Ajinca and take a little edge off, but overall they are looking at a tax bill of $5-15M depending on Boogie. If the re-sign Boogie they also won't be able to re-sign Niko the following year without a monster tax bill.

If they can give up yet another pick for someone to eat Solomon Hill's contract it is problem solved. They shouldn't keep doing it, but Demps wants to keep his job and is willing to mortgage the future.

If they aren't willing to do it a Jae Crowder/Jonas/Udoh trade for Niko and Ajinca saves them $10M (once they waive Jonas and Udoh) and gives them a cost effective piece in Jae. The guarantee dates on those contracts are later so they can see where Boogie comes in before making the decision.

Sliver of hope for my boy Infection.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm fairly certain that the deal is very rarely what we thought it was. I think that part of the Niko calculus is that it also meant dropping Favors after the season. So the question may be "Is Niko worth Favors plus a twenty one pick?" Burks as an expiring is pretty moveable next year without giving up a pick.

Maybe... I agree we don't know what the deal was. If I am Chicago I would prefer AB and Utah's pick to the NO package. If that meant we traded Favs or he disengages then that sucks.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I never knew

I've never gone back and really looked at what was deemed a controlled tap or not though and I'm guessing that is one of those homecooking stats... Like the OKC and Philly statkeepers just give it to Ben and RW whenever they look like they might have touched it a little.

 

[zman1527]

Which Favors can we plan on? The ghost of game 1 or the hero of game 2? Game 2 will almost certainly be his best game of our entire playoff run, judging by his history. He can be great when he turns it on, but he does not do that nearly enough. And if you want your 4 to be a 3 point shooter, Favs is not the guy. I would be happy to move on to someone who fits better.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I've been thinking about this too. Think we ****ed up.

Then again, maybe Lindsay pulls some heroics.

If we traded for Mirotic we might have missed the playoffs tho. Mirotic was a dumpster fire in February and March. He really turned it on once he shaved at the start of April.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I just hope we get to play Houston so we can see if the Favors/Gobert thing can actually work against an elite team who doesnt play Carmello Anthony major minutes. I would assume it doesnt and Crowder probably goes back to play more against them (but then again Crowder is kind of dumpster juice so maybe he wont).

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If we traded for Mirotic we might have missed the playoffs tho. Mirotic was a dumpster fire in February and March. He really turned it on once he shaved at the start of April.

I mean crowder wasn’t killing it either though. I think the gravity he has still allows us to stretch the floor.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I just hope we get to play Houston so we can see if the Favors/Gobert thing can actually work against an elite team who doesnt play Carmello Anthony major minutes. I would assume it doesnt and Crowder probably goes back to play more against them (but then again Crowder is kind of dumpster juice so maybe he wont).

I need to see it against a modern team that plays smarter. I think Favs will be a bargain this offseason. He’s in the middle tier of definitely worth more than the MLE but not sure the teams with actual cap space will have enough interest to open up the coffers. Dallas, Phoenix, Atlanta going to go 4/60? 4/50? At 4/50 I’m pretty sure I’m in. He may want the one year deal at a big number and to get on the market again next year.

 

[fishonjazz]

I think there is still a path to a deal depending on what NO is willing to spend... Obviously if Niko continues to go nuclear it aint happening.

NO will be at $129M - $134M in salary to keep it together... figures Boogie in at 25-30M and Rondo at $3M. They can stretch Ajinca and take a little edge off, but overall they are looking at a tax bill of $5-15M depending on Boogie. If the re-sign Boogie they also won't be able to re-sign Niko the following year without a monster tax bill.

If they can give up yet another pick for someone to eat Solomon Hill's contract it is problem solved. They shouldn't keep doing it, but Demps wants to keep his job and is willing to mortgage the future.

If they aren't willing to do it a Jae Crowder/Jonas/Udoh trade for Niko and Ajinca saves them $10M (once they waive Jonas and Udoh) and gives them a cost effective piece in Jae. The guarantee dates on those contracts are later so they can see where Boogie comes in before making the decision.

Sliver of hope for my boy Infection.

If they decide to keep mirotic then he would just be a free agent in 2019 and we can get him then right? Or would we be left not having enough monies for him at that point?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If they decide to keep mirotic then he would just be a free agent in 2019 and we can get him then right? Or would we be left not having enough monies for him at that point?

We should have plenty of space. May cost us Ricky or Dante or Favs depending on what we do. I think to have enough space to sign him or Harris to a 20M deal without waiving Ricky’s cap hold. I’d like to keep Ricky and I think we can keep him on a team friendly deal. Not sure anyone else believes they can get what we are out of him.