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DL and Quin Snyder Rift

NUMBERICA said:
DL can’t simultaneously get heaped with credit for building this supposedly great team when it also totally collapsed in the second round and now cannot be sustained because of his consistently ghastly work on the margins.
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DL's only legitimate gripes against Quin would be not playing Oni or Brantley some minutes to see what they have there... or not giving Shaq a legitimate chance to play the wing and add the help defender we need. He likely didn't want to bring someone in to play over them if he believes in them... of course if that is your MO why do that to your first round pick in a big way.

DL not finding two real nba players to fill in the roster in place of Thomas and Morgan is pretty incredible. Adding Ersan who is a real nba player is whatevs... but looking at the roster how exactly did you think he'd get used and wasn't there obvious bigger needs?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
No idea really. Seems like a made up name tbh.

I do think you have the following tea leaves for disagreements for DL and Quin (disagreements are normal so doesn't indicate a rift):

- Dante Exum... all of it.
- The weird benching non-benching of Mike Conley day... Quin took the brunt and answered the questions DL said no comment.
- Quin not trusting many or any of the young g league guys over the last few years. Doesn't think they are good enough but DL keeps them around.

Anything else?
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Technically every name is a made up name.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
DL's only legitimate gripes against Quin would be not playing Oni or Brantley some minutes to see what they have there... or not giving Shaq a legitimate chance to play the wing and add the help defender we need. He likely didn't want to bring someone in to play over them if he believes in them... of course if that is your MO why do that to your first round pick in a big way.

DL not finding two real nba players to fill in the roster in place of Thomas and Morgan is pretty incredible. Adding Ersan who is a real nba player is whatevs... but looking at the roster how exactly did you think he'd get used and wasn't there obvious bigger needs?
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In 3 entire games of getting pounded by small-ball lineups Quinn should have at least tried Ersan as a small-ball 5 for few minutes. But he did nothing. No different looks at all. Quin needs to go too imo.
 
The Udoka and Matt Thomas moves just smell like moves that smack of "we trust our spreadsheets more than our eyes". Like they just have no basketball feel or foresight at all.
 
LogGrad98 said:
In 3 entire games of getting pounded by small-ball lineups Quinn should have at least tried Ersan as a small-ball 5 for few minutes. But he did nothing. No different looks at all. Quin needs to go too imo.
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For Favs I agree but he could have looked at the wing lineups and though Ersan would just get cooked too... not sure they could have been worse but maybe.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
For Favs I agree but he could have looked at the wing lineups and though Ersan would just get cooked too... not sure they could have been worse but maybe.
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Yeah but when you blow multiple double digit leads and your team looks completely clueless in the process you should at least for say 5 minutes of over 70 minutes of inept ****** gameplay say "**** it, Ersan get out there".
 
NUMBERICA said:
DL can’t simultaneously get heaped with credit for building this supposedly great team when it also totally collapsed in the second round and now cannot be sustained because of his consistently ghastly work on the margins.
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He's been behind in every move/transaction dating back to the Hayward days. People just forget all the cap space that died on the vine because we didn't sign guys or use it in trades. All that flexibility that brought us nothing. The initial Hayward negotiation he walked away from over a couple million dollars when literally everyone knew the cap was exploding and there was virtually no deal that would look bad.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Yeah but when you blow multiple double digit leads and your team looks completely clueless in the process you should at least for say 5 minutes of over 70 minutes of inept ****** gameplay say "**** it, Ersan get out there".
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Yeah I agree... I don't think that sin is worse than the ones DL committed. I'm willing to overlook that a bit. I'd support bringing in a little better tactician for the staff. I think Quin is a good relationship guy and a good theory guy. In game adjustments/decisions seem to be hard for him.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Yeah I agree... I don't think that sin is worse than the ones DL committed. I'm willing to overlook that a bit. I'd support bringing in a little better tactician for the staff. I think Quin is a good relationship guy and a good theory guy. In game adjustments/decisions seem to be hard for him.
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I think we’ve lost some really important assistants over the years. I would hope the Jazz go hard after Kokoskov if it’s even possible.

Does anyone else think that Johnny Bryant may have been more instrumental to the turnaround in NY than Thibs? None of that **** happens if Randle isn’t suddenly a much, much better player and the timing is very interesting.
 
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