DL and Quin Snyder Rift

[homeytennis]

Let me think he had Morgan, Brantley, Ersan, Matty Ice, Hughes, Dok and Forrest. Would they have lost the 2nd half by 37 in game 6? Quin is painting them all like NAIA players. Sometimes his gimmick system just sucks. Like last season when we were down by 40 at the half. In Quin's mind if you aren't in 8 or 9 rotation you suck and don't deserve to play.

 

[Getting Traded]

That's a load of ********.

I guess you weren't watching the game very closely. Some of Mann's 3's weren't even contested let alone half-assed contests.

 

[jom2003]

I guess you weren't watching the game very closely. Some of Mann's 3's weren't even contested let alone half-assed contests.

But he gotta be willing to take those uncontested threes and make them. We've got players who are too afraid to shoot even when left wide open.

 

[LogGrad98]

I guess you weren't watching the game very closely. Some of Mann's 3's weren't even contested let alone half-assed contests.

Yeah. You see but don't understand. And I'm done explaining it to the morons. Suffice it to say when was ayton expected to defend the opposing team's hot scoring guard and defend the paint at the same time? If you can't figure it out from that, you're hopeless and clueless.

 

[jom2003]

Let me think he had Morgan, Brantley, Ersan, Matty Ice, Hughes, Dok and Forrest. Would they have lost the 2nd half by 37 in game 6?

I mean how do you know they wouldn't? We've already got starters(including three allstars) who took us all the way to top seed finish in the regular season and still lost that 2nd half by 37.

And those end of bench scrubs who didn't do jack **** for us in the regular season are just supposed to all of a sudden come onto the floor in what is thought to be our most important game of the season and do better? What stats do you have to back it up, other than fans wishful thinking that they know better than the professionals who are paid eight figures to make judgement on players?

I mean at least we've got valid stats and reasonings to criticize DL for missing the obvious during the offseason, but there simply isn't a valid lineup other than what Quins already put on the floor that is gonna guarantee a better outcome. Had Quin put a different lineup out there, guys like Andy Larsen would still criticize Quin for making the unnecessary tweak to his rotation and not trusting his star players in difficult situations that cost us the series.

 

[Getting Traded]

Yeah. You see but don't understand. And I'm done explaining it to the morons. Suffice it to say when was ayton expected to defend the opposing team's hot scoring guard and defend the paint at the same time? If you can't figure it out from that, you're hopeless and clueless.

Well, I saw Lopez guard Trae Young man-to-man today outside the 3-pt line and stop him from penetrating -- Brook Lopez, yes. Rudy not only didn't try hard enough on his contests, but caused several turnovers that allowed the Clips to get back in the game.

 

[porfavors]

Is in ability to adjust when something different is done by opponents is biggest problem of Quin. If he continue than we need a different playoff coach at end of season.

 

[jom2003]

Is in ability to adjust when something different is done by opponents is biggest problem of Quin. If he continue than we need a different playoff coach at end of season.

Again, we don't have that “something different” when you have a FO that only wants to double-down or even triple-down on things we already have. Tell me what different things does Doke bring onto the table exactly that is different from Rudy or Favs? What different things does Ersan or Morgan do that is different from Niang or Bogey? What does Hughes or Thomas do differently compared to Donovan/Clarkson?

I'd start criticizing Quin's ability to adjust when there is indeed "something different" like 3D wings, perimeter defenders or switchable small ball 5s available from our bench and he refuse to use them. But until then, it's all fans wishful thinking on stuff that isn't really there.

 

[LogGrad98]

Well, I saw Lopez guard Trae Young man-to-man today outside the 3-pt line and stop him from penetrating -- Brook Lopez, yes. Rudy not only didn't try hard enough on his contests, but caused several turnovers that allowed the Clips to get back in the game.

So Brooke Lopez' primary assignment was Trae young? Crazy! We saw Rudy switch into random players lots of time with great success. If Lopez was the primary defender on young for an entire half that's impressive.

If not then you have exposed yourself as a moron so kindly gtfoh with your **** takes on it.

 

[Getting Traded]

So Brooke Lopez' primary assignment was Trae young? Crazy! We saw Rudy switch into random players lots of time with great success. If Lopez was the primary defender on young for an entire half that's impressive.

If not then you have exposed yourself as a moron so kindly gtfoh with your **** takes on it.

Stop with the moronic comments. What I'm pointing out is that if Lopez can stop a Trae Young penetration from that far out on even one occasion that suggests that Rudy should be able to do better on contesting the 3's, that is he needed to put more effort into it. If he was tired, then Quin should've rested him and probably played Morgan who I think would've been better at guarding the perimeter than Favors. So why don't you be more respectful instead telling me to GTFOH, a-hole.

 

[fishonjazz]

If by "different looks" you mean Ersan, Brantley, Doke or Hughes, I don't know what else to tell ya.

I bet if Quin didn't play Niang a single minutes in that clippers series, JFZ would have gone wild. "NO NIANG??? WTF WAS QUIN THINKING???"

But cuz he did play so now JFZ is mad on Quin for playing him.
"PLAYING NIANG??? WTF WAS QUIN THINKING. !!!"

Different look doesn't simply mean playing different players.
A zone is also different for example.
So your answer seems to be no

Like I said, apples to oranges

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[fishonjazz]

"Double down" is a very accurate word to use here cuz you keep saying Quin should've tried something different. But what "different" things do guys like Ersan, Hughes, Doke, Morgan or Thomas bring onto the table exactly? If anything, they only bring us the lesser version of Rudy, Niang, Favs, Bogey or JC which got us killed in the first place.

By "something different" it means athleticism, physicality, switchability, perimeter defense. And none of those are given by the players that you mentioned. "Know your personnel" is the key here. It's like picking two bottles of poison. You know you gonna die either way, so Quin gave up. I know it looked bad. But at least the man had a point here. In the end, its still DL’s double-down strategy that deserves the blame here.

Something different:
1. Zone defense
2. Telling Rudy not to help. Stick with his man
3. Telling Clarkson, bogey, Conley, Mitchell, etc to sag off their man to prevent penetration instead of running them off the 3 point line and into the paint so Rudy has to come help.
4. Try some small ball of your own like Ersan at the 5. Couldn't be any worse.

I thought of those 4 different looks/adjustments just on the defensive end while watching the game in real time. Quin did nothing.

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