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do NOT bring back George Hill

I only bring back Hill if he helps us win a playoff game. By help us win, I mean we would have lost without him in the roster. If he doesnt do that once, he's not worth $20 or more.

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LoPo said:
I only bring back Hill if he helps us win a playoff game. By help us win, I mean we would have lost without him in the roster. If he doesnt do that once, he's not worth $20 or more.

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i think you're being generous, i'd expect a real hard fought loss with him playing incredible or win a series for him to be worth that pricetag.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Sure they do.

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what matters is have they been missing games recently (past few seasons). there are guy who have moderately serious injuries early in their careers and then go on to play consistently for many more injury free. There are others who are injury free in their youth and then start wearing out and breaking down as they age. What is important is what's happening now (past couple years is still relatively current). What is happening NOW, is that george hill has now missed 82 games in the last 3 seasons, which no matter how much you spin it, is significant.
 
DownUnder said:
i think you're being generous, i'd expect a real hard fought loss with him playing incredible or win a series for him to be worth that pricetag.
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I agree 100%. However, his market will be in that range. With the cap and luxury going up that much, somebody would pay 2/3 of a max contract for a good starter.

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DownUnder said:
ya quite the conundrum
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Except the rapid escalation of the salary cap isn't taking quite the trajectory that most thought when the new contract was signed. Signing 31 year old players, especially point guards, to that kind of contract is a tremendous risk, especially when good point guards really aren't a rarity.
 
framer said:
Except the rapid escalation of the salary cap isn't taking quite the trajectory that most thought when the new contract was signed. Signing 31 year old players, especially point guards, to that kind of contract is a tremendous risk, especially when good point guards really aren't a rarity.
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hence the conundrum comment.
 
Im a fan of George Hill. What a tough year for him with all time missed.
Is it a one year bad luck thing? I dont think hes soft. Hes lucky to have played as much as he did with all the injuries.

The money is the biggest issue to me. Hes set his price out of our range.
I only see him coming back if his price comes down.
 
Revolution 9 said:
Im a fan of George Hill. What a tough year for him with all time missed.
Is it a one year bad luck thing? I dont think hes soft. Hes lucky to have played as much as he did with all the injuries.

The money is the biggest issue to me. Hes set his price out of our range.
I only see him coming back if his price comes down.
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By the standards Jazz players had when I grew up, he's Charmin soft. So is Favors. More than likely, we wont see the 2nd round again this year. When players miss as much as our players miss, we lose out on building continuity.

Sure, people can argue that we are saving him for the playoffs, but he has missed too much time all year for that argument to mean as much now. I have lost respect for him. He can only get that respect back by playing well in the playoffs AND giving us a fair contract.

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LoPo said:
By the standards Jazz players had when I grew up, he's Charmin soft. So is Favors. More than likely, we wont see the 2nd round again this year. When players miss as much as our players miss, we lose out on building continuity.

Sure, people can argue that we are saving him for the playoffs, but he has missed too much time all year for that argument to mean as much now. I have lost respect for him. He can only get that respect back by playing well in the playoffs AND giving us a fair contract.

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With this management and coaching staff I'm sure Karl would have missed more games.
 
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