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Do you BYU guys stop.....EVER

That's a case for Notre Dame. Every school has a "niche" and BYU's is exceptionally small. Most people would rather chase the niche offered by San Diego, New York, a big name program, Miami, Ivy League, etc. than go to BYU.

Yeah, but I thought you were talking strictly BYU vs. Utah.
 
Franklin Wrote:

A Ute fan crying about BCS, imagine that. I bet you were stoked for Orrin Hatch's committee that no one else attended

Nice try, but it couldn't be farther from the truth. I actually support the current BCS structure when compared to the days of 84. No team should be voted a NC by going undefeated in the WAC an then beating a 6-and-5 Michigan squad in the Holiday Bowl. Did the BCS bite Utah in the *** in 2004 and 2008? Sure it did, but it also insures no more sham national champions. Also, did Utah really deserve a chance to play for a NC just because they went unbeaten in the MWC? My answer is to that is no. The current system isn't perfect, but it's better than what we had, and hopefully the new BCS playoff format being discussed will go even further to improve the way a NC is decided.
 
Franklin Wrote:



Nice try, but it couldn't be farther from the truth. I actually support the current BCS structure when compared to the days of 84. No team should be voted a NC by going undefeated in the WAC an then beating a 6-and-5 Michigan squad in the Holiday Bowl. Did the BCS bite Utah in the *** in 2004 and 2008? Sure it did, but it also insures no more sham national champions. Also, did Utah really deserve a chance to play for a NC just because they went unbeaten in the MWC? My answer is to that is no. The current system isn't perfect, but it's better than what we had, and hopefully the new BCS playoff format being discussed will go even further to improve the way a NC is decided.

*franklin.

Cool, you convinced me. I'm now a fan of 1 of the 2 Utah teams among a few hundred others nationwide with no shot at anything big after the first loss of every season. I can't wait for the 4th game failure this year!
 
*franklin.

Cool, you convinced me. I'm now a fan of 1 of the 2 Utah teams among a few hundred others nationwide with no shot at anything big after the first loss of every season. I can't wait for the 4th game failure this year!

Wrong again. Utah could lose all of it's OOC games each year and still qualify for the Rose Bowl not to mention some of the next level bowls such as the Holiday or Alamo (both much better than anything the MWC or Independence could offer). IMO, that still counts as having a shot at something "big" after their first loss. You're thinking of the other team when you talk about 1 loss automatically sending you to the Armed Forces or Poinsettia Bowl.

But who am I to say that? All of the kool-aid drinkers can't possibly be wrong. Independence is awesome baby!
 
Wrong again. Utah could lose all of it's OOC games each year and still qualify for the Rose Bowl not to mention some of the next level bowls such as the Holiday or Alamo (both much better than anything the MWC or Independence could offer). IMO, that still counts as having a shot at something "big" after their first loss. You're thinking of the other team when you talk about 1 loss automatically sending you to the Armed Forces or Poinsettia Bowl.

But who am I to say that? All of the kool-aid drinkers can't possibly be wrong. Independence is awesome baby!

No, you're wrong that my personal preferences are wrong to myself. Now go hike the hill to the #5 spot, then fall off eh.
 
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