Do you support these protests against Trump?

[Siro]

Seriously how? Like "BS it's not happening" or you disagree with how I see "peaceful".

To me those are not peaceful acts. I don't believe lighting dumpsters on fire in roadways is a peaceful act. I don't. Same holds true for the other items I listed.

I think there is space between not violent and peaceful. All we disagree with is how we are applying the word "peaceful".

Words have actual meaning. Peaceful protests means they're not out to inflict physical harm on others. It doesn't mean they sit quietly on the sidewalk whispering niceties to each other.

You have a point about destruction of property, and I understand the condemnation of such acts. But the flag burning and being vulgar are matters of free speech. Also, the vulgar part is laughable and you shouldn't have even brought it up.

 

[Stoked]

Words have actual meaning. Peaceful protests means they're not out to inflict physical harm on others. It doesn't mean they sit quietly on the sidewalk whispering niceties to each other.

You have a point about destruction of property, and I understand the condemnation of such acts. But the flag burning and being vulgar are matters of free speech. Also, the vulgar part is laughable and you shouldn't have even brought it up.

I agree they do. So lets look at the meaning of "peaceful".

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/peaceful?s=t


1.

characterized by peace; free from war, strife, commotion, violence, or disorder:
a peaceful reign; a peaceful demonstration.


2.

of, relating to, or characteristic of a state or time of peace.


3.

peaceable; not argumentative, quarrelsome, or hostile:

The bolded all apply to this protest IMO. So again, I do not think these protests, as a group, are peaceful.

 

[Stoked]

And I am not even saying that's a bad thing. Sometimes passion, aggression, heat and commotion are the right approach.

 

[Siro]

I agree they do. SO lets look at the meaning of "peaceful".

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/peaceful?s=t


1.

characterized by peace; free from war, strife, commotion, violence, or disorder:
a peaceful reign; a peaceful demonstration.


2.

of, relating to, or characteristic of a state or time of peace.


3.

peaceable; not argumentative, quarrelsome, or hostile:

Only non-argumentative protests that cause no commotion are acceptable! ROFL.

 

[Eminence]

I agree they do. So lets look at the meaning of "peaceful".

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/peaceful?s=t


1.

characterized by peace; free from war, strife, commotion, violence, or disorder:
a peaceful reign; a peaceful demonstration.


2.

of, relating to, or characteristic of a state or time of peace.


3.

peaceable; not argumentative, quarrelsome, or hostile:

The bolded all apply to this protest IMO. So again, I do not think these protests, as a group, are peaceful.

Peaceful Protest, good luck finding a non-argumentative protest.

 

[Siro]

And I am not even saying that's a bad thing. Sometimes passion, aggression, heat and commotion are the right approach.

It's a ****ing right of every American citizen! That's as bad as the other side trying to control people's speech and thoughts with appeals to "political correctness".

 

[Siro]

I apologize for inflicting violence on the JFC by using words like "****ing" and being argumentative.

Feels bad.

 

[Stoked]

It's a ****ing right of every American citizen! That's as bad as the other side trying to control people's speech and thoughts with appeals to "political correctness".

I never said it wasn't. I support the protests. Read the thread. Voted for it and said so a couple times. I even support the loud passion of it.

But if you feel me disagreeing on the choice of 1 word used to describe the protests is me trying to control them than that's your problem. One I'm not really interested in helping you sort out. I'm not even saying they should stop all their tactics.

This convo is done as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Siro]

I never said it wasn't. I support the protests. Read the thread. Voted for it and said so a couple times. I even support the loud passion of it.

But if you feel me disagreeing on the choice of 1 word used to describe the protests is me trying to control them than that's your problem. One I'm not really interested in helping you sort out. I'm not even saying they should stop all their tactics.

This convo is done as far as I'm concerned.

I don't understand. So you think the protests are NOT peaceful, but you still support them? You're much more radical than I thought! Kudos.

 

[Stoked]

Peaceful Protest, good luck finding a non-argumentative protest.

You thinks it's peaceful? Great. I don't and I'm glad it's not.

 

[Siro]

You thinks it's peaceful? Great. I don't and I'm glad it's not.

I'm surprised. Semantics aside, would you still support them if they were ACTUALLY violent? I'm trying to understand your position.

 

[Stoked]

I don't understand. So you think the protests are NOT peaceful, but you still support them? You're much more radical than I thought! Kudos.

I'll give this a response even though I said I'm done.

Sometimes anger, passion, aggression and confrontational actions are the right approach. You can be these things without being violent IMO.

This is how these protestors legitimately feel, as far as I can tell. Good, get it out there and let people know you're pissed off. It is there right and I fully support them getting that out there. There are some specific tactics I do not like though.