I just listened to the podcast and was typing while I was listening. I did my best so here it is for anyone who is interested.
Zach Lowe said he is increasingly of the belief that this current iteration of the Jazz are done.
Tim McMahon said the Jazz miss Ingles on the court and miss his voice in the locker room.
Mahon said Gobert has this terrible tendency of telling the harsh truth publicly at the worst possible time.
McMahon mentions Gobert was set to play against Dallas and was an extremely late scratch due to sudden pain which is what lead to Donovan’s comment.
It feels like a really good chapter of Utah Jazz history is coming to a close very soon. McMahon believes franchise altering changes are coming this summer and nobody is off the table.
Lowe said his expectations are the Jazz fail this postseason. McMahon says it feels like a team that is ready to move on. Lowe compared the Jazz to the Lob City Clippers.
Lowe said the Jazz got so good so fast after Hayward left that they ended up building the team around Gobert’s timetable not Donovan’s. McMahon says he disagrees with that. Mitchell was 22 when the Jazz traded for Conley. Mitchell is now 25 and Gobert is 29. Lowe said the Jazz made the right call going all in with Conley regardless and Mitchell was so good so early which allowed them to do so.
He said it will not be right to look back and say the Jazz messed up with the Conley traded if they lose this year because they very well could have won the championship last year if everything fell right. McMahon agrees. You have to seize the opportunity when you get a chance as a small market. McMahon says Mitchell staying with the Jazz forever is not going to happen. They had a chance to win and they pounced on the opportunity.
If this plays out like they think it will how much does Donovan’s desires factors into changes and if he asks out do they blow it up and reset? Lowe mentions a lot of teams hitting the reset button recently.
The Jazz have traded 6 first-round picks, Grayson Allen and Jae Crowder for Trey Burke, George Hill, Ricky Rubio and Mike Conley. That is a lot. They traded up for Trey Burke when it was Dennis Lindsey’s first draft and he loved Giannis but didn’t have the medicals and wasn’t confident enough to convince the Miller family to do so. Lowe mentions Conley has been lights out and has been great but the total cost to get here finally was a lot.
He said the Udoka Azubuike pick he doesn’t get, never will get and nobody gets it. Desmond Bane is giving other teams nightmares for not drafting him. Imagine if the Jazz drafted Bane there instead. McMahon says the Jazz have had misses on the finishing touches.
There is a universe in where Utah gets it together, has good matchups and makes a run this postseason. Crunch time defense has been a problem.
The biggest mystery of the offseason is what the pivot the Jazz will do. McMahon says to do whatever Donovan wants to keep him happy is a bad philosophy. Mentions again he’s not staying long-term and definitely won’t if the Jazz barely sneak into the playoffs. He says if you trade one (Gobert/Mitchell) you need to just trade both. Ryan Smith isn’t going to want to pay the luxury tax for a team that is competing for a play-in.
Other teams are planning on making a move on Mitchell and Gobert if it all blows up and both are distinct possibilities. Lowe said it is so early still to have to come to trading either one of them. If you trade Gobert and you are not a contender after it is over with Mitchell.
Gobert would prefer to stay in Utah but there is one spot he thinks would be most beneficial to him. They bring up hypothetical Gobert trades and Lowe mentions a few teams based on speculation.
Charlotte for Bouknight, Washington and picks. They’d be hesitant to move Bridges.
Atlanta makes sense and Bill Simmons mentioned them as a possibility when he was on with Lowe.
Toronto is brought up and McMahon says that is one he has heard. A package wasn’t dicussed.
Lowe stops there and McMahon says he is missing a team. The Mavericks. Rudy’s love language is awards and lobs. Lobs, lobs, lobs. Charlotte with LaMelo, Atlanta with Trae and Dallas with Luka. The Gobert and Luka pick and roll would be super effective especially since Luka and Dwight Powell have been so effective.
McMahon has heard internal and externally that Dallas would have significant interest and Gobert would love to play there with Luka. He says the Mavericks would be as or more aggressive as any team. They don’t really dig into a potential package.
Zach Lowe said he is increasingly of the belief that this current iteration of the Jazz are done.
Tim McMahon said the Jazz miss Ingles on the court and miss his voice in the locker room.
Mahon said Gobert has this terrible tendency of telling the harsh truth publicly at the worst possible time.
McMahon mentions Gobert was set to play against Dallas and was an extremely late scratch due to sudden pain which is what lead to Donovan’s comment.
It feels like a really good chapter of Utah Jazz history is coming to a close very soon. McMahon believes franchise altering changes are coming this summer and nobody is off the table.
Lowe said his expectations are the Jazz fail this postseason. McMahon says it feels like a team that is ready to move on. Lowe compared the Jazz to the Lob City Clippers.
Lowe said the Jazz got so good so fast after Hayward left that they ended up building the team around Gobert’s timetable not Donovan’s. McMahon says he disagrees with that. Mitchell was 22 when the Jazz traded for Conley. Mitchell is now 25 and Gobert is 29. Lowe said the Jazz made the right call going all in with Conley regardless and Mitchell was so good so early which allowed them to do so.
He said it will not be right to look back and say the Jazz messed up with the Conley traded if they lose this year because they very well could have won the championship last year if everything fell right. McMahon agrees. You have to seize the opportunity when you get a chance as a small market. McMahon says Mitchell staying with the Jazz forever is not going to happen. They had a chance to win and they pounced on the opportunity.
If this plays out like they think it will how much does Donovan’s desires factors into changes and if he asks out do they blow it up and reset? Lowe mentions a lot of teams hitting the reset button recently.
The Jazz have traded 6 first-round picks, Grayson Allen and Jae Crowder for Trey Burke, George Hill, Ricky Rubio and Mike Conley. That is a lot. They traded up for Trey Burke when it was Dennis Lindsey’s first draft and he loved Giannis but didn’t have the medicals and wasn’t confident enough to convince the Miller family to do so. Lowe mentions Conley has been lights out and has been great but the total cost to get here finally was a lot.
He said the Udoka Azubuike pick he doesn’t get, never will get and nobody gets it. Desmond Bane is giving other teams nightmares for not drafting him. Imagine if the Jazz drafted Bane there instead. McMahon says the Jazz have had misses on the finishing touches.
There is a universe in where Utah gets it together, has good matchups and makes a run this postseason. Crunch time defense has been a problem.
The biggest mystery of the offseason is what the pivot the Jazz will do. McMahon says to do whatever Donovan wants to keep him happy is a bad philosophy. Mentions again he’s not staying long-term and definitely won’t if the Jazz barely sneak into the playoffs. He says if you trade one (Gobert/Mitchell) you need to just trade both. Ryan Smith isn’t going to want to pay the luxury tax for a team that is competing for a play-in.
Other teams are planning on making a move on Mitchell and Gobert if it all blows up and both are distinct possibilities. Lowe said it is so early still to have to come to trading either one of them. If you trade Gobert and you are not a contender after it is over with Mitchell.
Gobert would prefer to stay in Utah but there is one spot he thinks would be most beneficial to him. They bring up hypothetical Gobert trades and Lowe mentions a few teams based on speculation.
Charlotte for Bouknight, Washington and picks. They’d be hesitant to move Bridges.
Atlanta makes sense and Bill Simmons mentioned them as a possibility when he was on with Lowe.
Toronto is brought up and McMahon says that is one he has heard. A package wasn’t dicussed.
Lowe stops there and McMahon says he is missing a team. The Mavericks. Rudy’s love language is awards and lobs. Lobs, lobs, lobs. Charlotte with LaMelo, Atlanta with Trae and Dallas with Luka. The Gobert and Luka pick and roll would be super effective especially since Luka and Dwight Powell have been so effective.
McMahon has heard internal and externally that Dallas would have significant interest and Gobert would love to play there with Luka. He says the Mavericks would be as or more aggressive as any team. They don’t really dig into a potential package.
