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Does Cuban Have a Point?

I think Mark had a bong in his hand when he was giving that interview.

I play b-ball with my friends on Thursday at this gym we rent - afterwards we go out to eat and have a couple of beers (not a sports bar). All I can tell you is the bar is packed every Thursday night when NFL football is on no matter who is playing.

Between the violence, Fantasy Football, which you only have to set your team once a week and the fact that the season is insanely short compared to the other majors, NFL Football is a perfect fit for where out culture is right now - it ain't going anywhere.
 
I actually agree with both of you. The Thursday night football and the travelling overseas hurts the product. But the NFL is king and I think it always will be.
 
bigb said:
I actually agree with both of you. The Thursday night football and the travelling overseas hurts the product. But the NFL is king and I think it always will be.
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I think the one thing that will probably put a dent in the NFL is the concussions and long - term injuries. It's already happening now; but I think within the next 15-20 years the overwhealming majority of parents will just stop letting their kids play football - starting at the Pop Warner/Pee Wee level and then High School. I think we're one dead body on the field away from some state banning high school football all together.
 
I like Thursday Night football cuz I'm addicted to fantasy football and want it to happen all day everyday for the rest of my life, but yeah it's a ****ty product. The games ALWAYS suck on Thursday Night.

I think what Cuban is saying, is that a company can either make it priority #1-100 to provide the absolute best experience/service possible for customers/fans, then from there make sure they have the proper controls in place to maximize profit, or a company can choose to use their product to milk customers/fans for everything they have, all the while telling the customer what they want, instead of letting the customer tell them.

Basically the NFL is betting that football is so engrained in people's lives that they can afford to lose some goodwill in exchange for short term profit. It's hard to say that they aren't right, because where else are people going to turn? Cuban is betting that history repeats itself and that any company who loses vision and values short term profit above the long term equity that serving the customer above all else builds, will ultimately fail.

Btw, Cuban is smart as ****. Nobody is saying that the NFL will just cease to exist or something, but could it lose it's footing as America's #1 sport? Totes possible.
 
candrew said:
I think the one thing that will probably put a dent in the NFL is the concussions and long - term injuries. It's already happening now; but I think within the next 15-20 years the overwhealming majority of parents will just stop letting their kids play football - starting at the Pop Warner/Pee Wee level and then High School. I think we're one dead body on the field away from some state banning high school football all together.
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Kids have already died playing HS football....
 
If Basketball could shorten its season and get rid of tanking, I think it could be the most popular. As it is now, the season is too long and 40% of the teams are unwatchable down the stretch.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
If Basketball could shorten its season and get rid of tanking, I think it could be the most popular. As it is now, the season is too long and 40% of the teams are unwatchable down the stretch.
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Same with Baseball. The games are too long and there are too many of them. It is hard to convince a 12 year old, in the middle of summer, to spend 4 hours on Friday night, 4 hours on Saturday, and then 4 hours on Sunday to watch a baseball series.

Baseball and basketball need to get rid of games. There are too many of them. It is too hard to be a full on fanatic when you are asking me to devote 82 nights a year, then 164, then 16. If you are going to choose one, the answer is easy. I can watch football, do fantasy football, and still have a life.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
If Basketball could shorten its season and get rid of tanking, I think it could be the most popular. As it is now, the season is too long and 40% of the teams are unwatchable down the stretch.
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Also, until basketball can fix the "one player can change everything" problem, there will always be tanking. One player can't have the impact on their team in any other sport like they can have in basketball.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
https://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/stor...cuban-says-greedy-nfl-10-years-away-implosion

I tend to agree with Cuban. The NFL is getting greedy. Not sure how much it will hurt their popularity, but I think it will hurt its players by trying to expand the schedule and add in all these weird dates that will give teams more games with shorter rest periods in-between.

I personally HATE Thursday Night Football.
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The NFL has never cared about the players so yea I think he is spot on. However, I think the NBA season should be shortened too. The quality of play would go up.

I don't watch Thursday night football because I forget it is on most of the time. Besides when I was married I had other obligations so Sunday was designated football day. The real issue is injuries. These guys need more rest. Usually teams don't practice much on a normal week until Wednesday.
 
candrew said:
Not enough - I'm talking about some nationally beloved, HGH taking, DUI driving, pregnant g/f beating, player getting killed on the field.
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I think there have been a couple of deaths on the field. I don't remember the guy but I think some player in the 70s died. A few have been paralyzed though.
 
Hopefully he's right. That sport is so damn boring I don't know why anyone likes it. I literally fall asleep every time I watch football.
 
Tony said:
Hopefully he's right. That sport is so damn boring I don't know why anyone likes it. I literally fall asleep every time I watch football.
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I agree with his conclusion, but not how he got there.

The NFL will decrease in popularity if they continue to make rules where you can't hit players, which they almost have to make because of player safety. The sport has become more boring, but I don't think it's because they have too many games.

Fantasy football is one of the things that is also propping up NFL games. People watch games to see how their players did, they don't actually care about the sport. If fantasy football were to go away, the NFL would lose a ton of viewers.
 
green said:
Also, until basketball can fix the "one player can change everything" problem, there will always be tanking. One player can't have the impact on their team in any other sport like they can have in basketball.
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The lottery wheel system fixes tanking.
 
cowhide said:
I think there have been a couple of deaths on the field. I don't remember the guy but I think some player in the 70s died. A few have been paralyzed though.
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It seems like someone dies every so often during practice from dehydration or some unknown health condition.
 
Tony said:
Hopefully he's right. That sport is so damn boring I don't know why anyone likes it. I literally fall asleep every time I watch football.
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I couldn't agree more. I'd almost rather watch MLS... Almost.
 
Hantlers said:
The sport has become more boring, but I don't think it's because they have too many games.
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It's always been boring. That has little to do with its popularity, as there must be deeper social/economic/historical issues. If popularity of sports depended on excitement, demolition derbies would be number one.
 
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