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Does Sloan have any gas left in the tank?? We need a coach!!

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I am perfectly fine with the Jazz tanking this year given that we are setting ourselves up nicely for a great draft pick. However it doesn't seem that the players are receiving the right leadership during our losses. I think Sloan is exactly what our young players need. He has so much experience that his advice and leadership comes as second nature clock work. Is there anyone else that thinks Sloan is the answer, or do you think there are other coach's out there that are better?? Jeff Van Gundy?? George Karl?? etc....
 
No.

Sloan couldn't win in the 20+ years he was here earlier, what makes you think he could win now? The game passed him by. The youth passed him by. It's a different culture now.
 
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VINYLONE said:
No.

Sloan couldn't win in the 20+ years he was here earlier, what makes you think he could win now? The game passed him by. The youth passed him by. It's a different culture now.
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Well I agree to a certain extent. The years that we could have won there was a guy you may have heard of named Michael Jordan. He prevented us from winning along with many other teams. And yes the culture is different now. Back then players brought their ping pong balls with them instead of leaving them in their wives purse like they do now. I would imagine it would be easier coaching players that were willing to play defense instead of trying to avoid it like our stay puff marshmallow men we have now. The game never passed him by my friend, he understands the game almost as good as Phil Jackson does. The youth passed him by in terms of todays youth with no respect to their coach, I would agree with that too. Sloan heart is where he could contribute. Nobody cares about winning more. To Sloan, failing is not an option. He may not have won the championship but he never failed. His wins came from passion of teaching the art of defense and man-ing up to your opponent.
 
Sloan couldn't win in the 20+ years he was here
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Vinylone are you on crack. Please illuminate us with your idea of what winning is! He won enough the years he was here that he is a shoo-in for the hall of fame. The rest of what you said was basically true enough. Oh, you mean he never won a

championship trophy. Winning an NBA championship is a very hard thing to do, only one team at a time gets to do this and there are 30 teams trying to do it. You need a culture in the NBA where someone other than the local fans would like to see any

certain team "win it all". Yes i am making some remarks that some could construe as "conspiracy theory" based. It doesn't take a conspiracy to stop a team, it just takes an attitude that it would be a shame if that bunch wins a title when there is

obviously more deserving superstars out there. You will know that that culture has arrived on the day that NBA refs stop calling fouls on players because they are a rookie or allow superstars to walk on the way to the basket because that's their "move".

And instead base their calls on what they actually saw and what the rule book says.

And when the greatest moment in a teams history isn't preceded by an "Oh,oh" from the broadcast booth. A teams success is not defined by the trophy, but by knowing that your team was deserving and played with all the passion and effort that could of

been asked of them. Those finals teams were our champs and i have never viewed them in my mind as losing in any way. I am just as proud of those teams as any Bulls fan is proud of their trophy. That is what it's all about!
 
VINYLONE said:
No.

Sloan couldn't win in the 20+ years he was here earlier, what makes you think he could win now? The game passed him by. The youth passed him by. It's a different culture now.
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I always find it odd that people see Stockton, Malone, and Sloan to have been behind the times. Every team in the league today wishes they could execute that Jazz pick and roll that everyone loves to **** on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XLvqH9qoik
 
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I don't care about wins. Sloan would be here for no other reason than to get this team and the franchise as a whole back to some level of respectability.

Hell, if you don't want Sloan, bring Matt Harpring in as HC. This way he can piss and moan to the players and I won't have to hear his yap every game.
 
Jerry is already in the hall of game, grandpa.

And vinyl one, who else could win against Michael and Phil in their primes? Exactly Zero other teams. Jerry is one of the top coaches of all time. He doesn't have it now, because he is an old man, not because he never had it.
 
He'd be an upgrade, but a young core that management wants to grow together probably isn't where he'll shine.

Has he enough gas in the tank to go through the end of the season? Yeah. Should the Miller group fire Corbin, I could see naming Sloan interim coach. Moving forward? likely not.
 
I truly believe Sloan would get this team to the level that they would win basketball games, and **** us out of a top five pick. Let Corbin finish this season.
 
candrew said:
I don't care about wins. Sloan would be here for no other reason than to get this team and the franchise as a whole back to some level of respectability.

Hell, if you don't want Sloan, bring Matt Harpring in as HC. This way he can piss and moan to the players and I won't have to hear his yap every game.
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Haha awesome. I'm down for the Matt scenario

Gotta admit when we first got our youngsters I often wondered what Sloan could have done with them. Too bad.
 
I always thought Sloan was a great teacher of the game and would make a great college coach (minus the recruiting aspect). Since most of the members of the Jazz would still be in college if they went 4 years, I think he could do wonders with this team. They would still be a lottery team, but they would have a more than 1 win.
 
Jeffrey32 said:
I always thought Sloan was a great teacher of the game and would make a great college coach (minus the recruiting aspect). Since most of the members of the Jazz would still be in college if they went 4 years, I think he could do wonders with this team. They would still be a lottery team, but they would have a more than 1 win.
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Remember the job Sloan did when Stockton and Malone left with the raggamuffins he was left with. All stars like Carlos Arroyo and Ben Handlogten and he came within a game of getting that team into the playoffs.
 
Grandpa Jazz said:
Vinylone are you on crack. Please illuminate us with your idea of what winning is! He won enough the years he was here that he is a shoo-in for the hall of fame. The rest of what you said was basically true enough. Oh, you mean he never won a

championship trophy. Winning an NBA championship is a very hard thing to do, only one team at a time gets to do this and there are 30 teams trying to do it. You need a culture in the NBA where someone other than the local fans would like to see any

certain team "win it all". Yes i am making some remarks that some could construe as "conspiracy theory" based. It doesn't take a conspiracy to stop a team, it just takes an attitude that it would be a shame if that bunch wins a title when there is

obviously more deserving superstars out there. You will know that that culture has arrived on the day that NBA refs stop calling fouls on players because they are a rookie or allow superstars to walk on the way to the basket because that's their "move".

And instead base their calls on what they actually saw and what the rule book says.

And when the greatest moment in a teams history isn't preceded by an "Oh,oh" from the broadcast booth. A teams success is not defined by the trophy, but by knowing that your team was deserving and played with all the passion and effort that could of

been asked of them. Those finals teams were our champs and i have never viewed them in my mind as losing in any way. I am just as proud of those teams as any Bulls fan is proud of their trophy. That is what it's all about!
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As far as I know, no, I am not on crack. I would advise you to attack the idea and not the poster.

The purpose of a franchise, in my opinion, is to win as many championships as possible. A franchise should have as it's ultimate goal, a championship, in order to instill a winning culture among it's coaching staff, it's players and it's fans. Always aim high so to speak. One cannot deny that the Jazz franchise has been a juggernaut, for the most part, the last few decades. I've been watching them since 1992 and their "winning" ways, their culture is what kept me as a fan. It's what keeps me as a fan. Like you, Gramps, I have and hold Sloan in the highest regard in respect to coaches. He was what this franchise needed. He was as successful as a coach could be without winning the ultimate prize. But I am not an absolutist. I am not willing to wallow in mediocrity in the name of some faux sainthood. Sloan was given a record of time with this franchise and towards the end of his career he was spinning his wheels. As far as I could see he never changed his philosophy regarding the defense of the three point line, even while the league changed and players accuracy changed. Regardless, when Sloan quit the team -- and he did quit -- it was best to move on. I am willing to change things and take risk. Others like to continue along the same path hoping and waiting for a different outcome even though they know there isn't one to come.

You're right, "a teams success is not defined by the trophy" but a franchise's is. In comparison to the Celtics, the lakers, the Spurs, and even the Heat the Jazz franchise is failing one. You can argue otherwise but my barometer of success is probably a different one.

I hope to in my lifetime see a roster of Jazz players hold that trophy above their collective heads while basking in the ultimate triumph.
 
Does Sloan have any gas left in the ___***TANK***___?? We need a coach!!

gas in the TANK? Corbin's got this one.

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