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Does ty have something against favors?

pickledXgrandma

pickledXgrandma

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He probably does not, but why don't we run any plays for Favors athleticism like alley oops? I feel like he could have the same success with it has Evans. I think we could get a couple alley oops a game from favors if Ty would draw it up...
 
Ol' Jer don't like that flashy ****, neither does his protoge. Gotta keep to the 1950s basketball.

More seriously, I Ty and most coaches really love have a reliable offensive player, someone they can get the ball to and count on 20 ppg. Jefferson could do that. Little else, but he could do that. So Jefferson gets a pass on the rest. So it is a little less not liking Favors than liking the reliability of a Jefferson. Plus a coach could always excuse the few minutes for favors by saying how young and inexperienced he is.
 
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No one runs half-court sets for alley-oops. The stuff Evans gets aren't plays, they are just recognition between him and the PG (usually Watson).
 
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pickledXgrandma said:
That looks like a set play to me. Why isn't there the recognition for favors?
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I don't know, he just doesn't have that kind of connection with any of the PG's I guess. Also, he isn't as quick as Evans. I don't think he can just spin off his guy and explode as quickly as Evans can.
 
Ty's not holding back alleyoops to Favors or anything else. Lets not forget, Favors development this season was shocking. He basically sucked offensively for almost half the year. Remember when he had like 1 assist in his first 300 minutes? Remember when dropping him the ball to him in the post meant running back on defense? I've rarely ever seen a player improve so much over 25 games.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
No one runs half-court sets for alley-oops. The stuff Evans gets aren't plays, they are just recognition between him and the PG (usually Watson).
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I'm 90% sure that the Early Oop is a play. I can tell when it happens before it happens. I think it's been scouted like hell, so the Jazz don't use it as much.
 
Weezur said:
I'm 90% sure that the Early Oop is a play. I can tell when it happens before it happens. I think it's been scouted like hell, so the Jazz don't use it as much.
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I guess it could be considered a play, I just don't really consider something that only involves 2 people and 0 off-ball movement to be really considered a "play". I think I recall Evans and Watson saying they don't even practice it at all in practice or anything, it's just something they do.
 
Ingredients for Early Oops:
-Benches emptied
-Bad defense
-Bad opponent scouting
-Earl Watson
-Jeremy Evans doing just about the only thing he can do
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I guess it could be considered a play, I just don't really consider something that only involves 2 people and 0 off-ball movement to be really considered a "play". I think I recall Evans and Watson saying they don't even practice it at all in practice or anything, it's just something they do.
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pickledXgrandma said:
He probably does not, but why don't we run any plays for Favors athleticism like alley oops? I feel like he could have the same success with it has Evans. I think we could get a couple alley oops a game from favors if Ty would draw it up...
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Is this not the definition of a troll? pickledXgrandma asks a question "does Ty have something against Favors". The admits he probably doesn't, but he asks the question anyways, and a stupid one at that.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I guess it could be considered a play, I just don't really consider something that only involves 2 people and 0 off-ball movement to be really considered a "play". I think I recall Evans and Watson saying they don't even practice it at all in practice or anything, it's just something they do.
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It is a play, but not one that Ty calls.
 
Why do you need to draw up alley-oops for Favors when he has already exhibited the ability to get the ball in the paint via a traditional entry pass and slam it down over opposing players?

Obviously if the alley-opp is there, a good PG will recognize it. But there are many risks associated with the alley-oop lob pass - which, unless your name is Chris Paul, is low percentage.
 
candrew said:
Why do you need to draw up alley-oops for Favors when he has already exhibited the ability to get the ball in the paint via a traditional entry pass and slam it down over opposing players?

Obviously if the alley-opp is there, a good PG will recognize it. But there are many risks associated with the alley-oop lob pass - which, unless your name is Chris Paul, is low percentage.
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And if your name is Devin Harris, it's usually always a turnover. Harris has to be the worst alley oop thrower I have ever seen.
 
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