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Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking

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jazzrule said:
Guess you don't watch Hannity where he showed multiple footage of Trump saying the Russians meddled in our elections. Quit watching CNN for your news and you might learn the truth, but you can not handle the truth.
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Sigh
 
jazzrule said:
Guess you don't watch Hannity where he showed multiple footage of Trump saying the Russians meddled in our elections. Quit watching CNN for your news and you might learn the truth, but you can not handle the truth.
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Did you see how he spoke when Putin was standing right next to him? Think that might be the new standard now.
 
The Thriller said:
An entire political party is attacking the FBI and working to overthrow our institutions. All because they’re either too scared of their crazy *** delegates in their primaries or because they’re corrupt from Russian rubles donated to the NRA.

Not the same as a handful of clowns who think that Jenny McArthy knows stuff.
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Anit-vaccine stances kill people. Working to overthrow the FBI does not. Actions that involve killing people, even indirectly, are worse.
 
One Brow said:
Anit-vaccine stances kill people. Working to overthrow the FBI does not. Actions that involve killing people, even indirectly, are worse.
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I disagree completely. Look at literally every dictatorship on the 20th and 21st century. Look at turkey, Hungary, and Poland today. Convincing the public (or a large part of the public) that American institutions are part of a “deep state” hell bent on destroying The Great Leader will undoubtably lead to death and potentially the transformation of western civilization forever. Americans seem to think that they’re immune to the totalitarian forces clearly on the rise today. It’s weird.

Not sure we’ve faced such a dire threat since the 1940s.

I’m not worried about a few idiots who think Jenny McCarthy knows stuff.

I’m much more worried about the 40 percent of the population that worships trump and has no respect for American institutions or civil rights.
 
Red said:
Did you see how he spoke when Putin was standing right next to him? Think that might be the new standard now.
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I would really like to know what is going on in that huge orange head of his, to find out exactly why he is so enamored with Russia. I mean on the surface we can see that he reveres leaders with total control. He has proven to be a control freak throughout his entire life, so that is no surprise. But I have to think there is something deeper than that. Maybe a financial interest, but many politicians have had that with other groups, countries, specials interest, etc. I don't think he is smart enough to actually pull off any kind of lasting change, such as removing the constitution or overthrowing the republic, or whatever. Or maybe he is just stupid enough to think he can become the next dear leader, but I doubt that. But there is something deeper there. I would be interested to know exactly what it is.
 
The Thriller said:
I’m not worried about a few idiots who think Jenny McCarthy knows stuff.

I’m much more worried about the 40 percent of the population that worships trump and has no respect for American institutions or civil rights.
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Can we just agree that they're BOTH existential threats? I mean, Trump can start a nuclear war (altho he'd pronounce it nucular) but anti-vaxxers could precipitate a plague like the black death.
 
gandalfe said:
Can we just agree that they're BOTH existential threats? I mean, Trump can start a nuclear war (altho he'd pronounce it nucular) but anti-vaxxers could precipitate a plague like the black death.
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Hasn’t trump proven this risk already in his press conference with Putin, subsequent dates with Hannity and Carlson, and later his walk back of his original press conference?

“I don’t see why Russia would be.”

Oh I meant to say, “I don’t see why Russia wouldn’t be.”

What’s stopping him from ordering:

“Let’s bomb North Korea!”

Oh I meant to say, “Let’s not bomb North Korea!

Colbert did a hilarious School house video on this:

 
The Thriller said:
I disagree completely. Look at literally every dictatorship on the 20th and 21st century. Look at turkey, Hungary, and Poland today. Convincing the public (or a large part of the public) that American institutions are part of a “deep state” hell bent on destroying The Great Leader will undoubtably lead to death and potentially the transformation of western civilization forever. Americans seem to think that they’re immune to the totalitarian forces clearly on the rise today. It’s weird.
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Let's be clear on this: any attempt to create a totalitarian state will need to rely on internal intelligence and law enforcement to enact it upon the populace. Within our federal government, this can only be accomplished by organizations like the FBI and NSA.

I agree that Trump loves dictators, and i find it easy to believe he would love to have dictatorial powers. Dictators don't just arise by fiat; they actually have to take over and subvert the institutions of power. Even if Trump were actively trying to lay a years-long plan to create a dictatorship (and I'm not sure Trump has the capacity for long-term planning), he would be actively interfering with his ability to accomplish it.

The US has had demagogues before, and will again. It has had period of heightened intolerance before, and will again. It may someday cease to be a democracy, but the people that arrange that change will be much more competent and clever that the clown-car this administration represents.

If you really want to worry about something, worry about how at the lower level appointments (undersecretaries and the like) are governing by destroying the government's regulations. That's where the real scandal and danger, not the White House side-show.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I would really like to know what is going on in that huge orange head of his, to find out exactly why he is so enamored with Russia.
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As Russia has become more homophobic, more intolerant of religious diversity, etc., the Dominionists have become more enamored with Russia. This has been happening for years.
 
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