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Donovan Mitchell and the great draft day robbery.

Tak said:
I think both picks might have been influenced in part by the fact that both Giannis and Kawhi were listed as SF, imagine the impact on Haywood's fragile ego if the Jazz were picking guys playing his position.
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Jazz drafted for a need, not BPA.
 
candrew said:
People bitch and moan about Kawhi but it's not like the guy was projected to go number 1 or something. He was all over the map in the mock drafts. I saw several that didn't even have him going lottery.

He went to a small school (San Diego State), did not put up big numbers in college. Shot something like mid-40's FG%. No range.

Pop saw something in him that a lot of other folks didn't - that's why he's Pop.

Get over it.
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Agreed. He was viewed as a tweener that couldn't shoot. How he developed handles and a jump shot, I will never no, because he couldn't do those things in college
 
candrew said:
Wilkins wasn't a draft day trade - The Jazz didn't trade him until right before training camp because (in part) they were afraid he wasn't going to show up.

Do any old timers know - did Wilkins play in the summer league for Utah? Probably not.

Wilkins says to this day he would have played for the Jazz but who knows for sure

Would have been nice though.
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The teams financial problems at the time were no secret. My recollection is that fans were happy about the cash infusion far more than being sad about losing Wilkins. We were sort of amazed that Salt Lake had an NBA team and hoping and praying that they would somehow figure out a way to keep it here.

I have no recollection at all of Wilkins threatening not to show up. I don't think that happened.
 
Biggest draft day robbery ever is Kawhi for George Hill imo. Gobert and Mitchell got to be up there though.
 
I must say, in some alternate universe, or in the brightest time line, The Jazz drafted Klay at 3 and Kawhi at 11 in 2011, Giannis at 9 and Gobert at 27 in 2013, kept Hayward and still drafted Mitchell. And Bill Gates became a Jazz fan, and paid the luxury tax (after buying .00000001% of the team; rest of the team went to the legacy trust) on the grounds that the Jazz would resign all these guys.

Mitchell/Neto/Jimmer (why not)
Hayward/Ingles
Giannis/Kawhi/Hayward
Kawhi/Giannis/JJ
Gobert/Udoh
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
The teams financial problems at the time were no secret. My recollection is that fans were happy about the cash infusion far more than being sad about losing Wilkins. We were sort of amazed that Salt Lake had an NBA team and hoping and praying that they would somehow figure out a way to keep it here.

I have no recollection at all of Wilkins threatening not to show up. I don't think that happened.
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I think the back story here is that we NEEDED cash to keep the team. So, Wilkins was traded for the Jazz to stay in Utah. I'd say we got the better deal long term. I think Miller was either going to sell the franchise or get operating cash. So, I don't blame us for that. And the Lakers getting Magic sounds more like the pick was taken from us than the pick was traded. But I don't know the back story well enough.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
I think the back story here is that we NEEDED cash to keep the team. So, Wilkins was traded for the Jazz to stay in Utah. I'd say we got the better deal long term. I think Miller was either going to sell the franchise or get operating cash. So, I don't blame us for that. And the Lakers getting Magic sounds more like the pick was taken from us than the pick was traded. But I don't know the back story well enough.
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Larry Miller did not own the team at the time.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
I think the back story here is that we NEEDED cash to keep the team. So, Wilkins was traded for the Jazz to stay in Utah. I'd say we got the better deal long term. I think Miller was either going to sell the franchise or get operating cash. So, I don't blame us for that. And the Lakers getting Magic sounds more like the pick was taken from us than the pick was traded. But I don't know the back story well enough.
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Sam Battistone owned the Jazz back then. He sold the rights to Wilkens for $1,000,000 to make payroll.

Larry bought half of the team for $7,000,000(?) a few years later.
 
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