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Donovan.....side-steps again

Oneye is a bit overboard and obsessive, but he is right about a lot of things

*And to be clear I'm not against activism and I'm one of the more left posters on the site. I like that Don does that*
 
What was the question?

Is it how bad does Donovan suck today?

'cause you can shove your repetitive stupid **** up your own ***, mine is closed at the moment.
...at the moment. Noted.
 
Imagine a girl in relationship with oneye. "You re going to leave me for a guy with a bigger dick" - "I love you, I am happy" - "You re avoiding the answer" - "What else I can say.." - "You're too sexy, you will dump me, don't give me that passive aggressive look" - becomes sadly silent - "bitch!"..
 
Imagine a girl in relationship with oneye. "You re going to leave me for a guy with a bigger dick" - "I love you, I am happy" - "You re avoiding the answer" - "What else I can say.." - "You're too sexy, you will dump me, don't give me that passive aggressive look" - becomes sadly silent - "bitch!"..
There is no bigger dick than oneye.
 
*Rudy carried a team that was 19-28 in January (and non-playoff team) to one of the best regular season finishes ever when he came back from injury……is what I think you meant to say.

As for being liked, yes he’s so liked by his peers in player voting he came in 9th in the west for guards in votes from players in All Star voting, lower than he finished with media or even fans. As for it being for show. Spence Checketts today: “I’ve been told Donovan’s kind of a robot, CAA tells him what to say and he goes out there and says it.” So yes when Hayward left, a kid who grew up inside the Mets organization and was tailored for professional sports with CAA writing the script new exactly what to say those first couple years…..funny he won’t say any of that anymore.

As for racist, let me be very clear, I support much of the causes he stands for, but people disagreeing on certain things with him doesn’t make them a racist. He is not an all knowing being. He ain’t God, and frankly in this podcast when he’s sitting there acting like he’s dropping knowledge and some are just too resistant or dumb (or “racist”) to get it is frankly disgusting as well. We gotta throw a label on anyone who thinks differently than us these days and “racist” and “socialist” seem to be the easiest stones to throw. A lot of people need to grow the **** up when discussing serious issues, of which this and basketball is not.

So do tell me, when we made it no farther than the 2nd round when this iteration of the Jazz is done what exactly did we gain from it? We’d have been better off in a rebuild than kicking it down the road 5 years and making the 2nd round once. He has and will accomplish no more here than Hayward and will bounce sooner.
Good post. I disagree with some, but at least you are finally coherent and reasonable. When did Spencer Checketts say that?

Well said about racism and socialism. It seems like all arguments die with either a claim of socialism, racism, wokism, or virtue signaling.

-Edit- I found it. Tim McMahon for 2/15. It’s a pretty good interview. I’m not going to lump Don in with James Harden yet. If Don forces a trade to the Knicks we’ll clearly be able to see that all his championship talk is a lie (no way they win a championship in NY!)

My take away from Don’s interview yesterday was that he can coexist with Rudy and he made no long term commitments to the Jazz.

It makes sense that players are told to say “Championship blah blah blah I want a championship blah blah blah. Championship!” That is music to the fans ears. Meanwhile… as a normal human being… I’d prefer $100 million over a championship ring. NBA players are more competitive than me, so maybe they’d take the ring over an extra $100 million, but this guys are rare.
 
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So yeah, of course Donovan is leaving no later than the end of his current contract, and of course he does certain things in the name of branding and PR. Of course a kid from NYC that cares deeply about social justice issues isn’t going to stay in Utah for his entire career. Advocating for social justice issues in Utah with its dumbass politics is the equivalent of screaming into a void.

None of these facts make any of these threads any less ****ing weird.

The Jazz players are not my friends, we don’t know each other, would probably never hang out, and probably have nothing in common other than liking basketball. I don’t feel an emotional connection positive or negative to people I don’t know. This is purely transactional, and I will enjoy all Jazz players so long as they are here and contribute to Jazz winning. I will celebrate their successes and gripe about their failures. Couldn’t care less about the personal drama and personalities of the players.

I guess the exception to the above is I do feel empathy for guys that get injured (like Joe), but I don’t feel like I lost a family member or anything like some here did when he was traded. Perhaps I am a bad person, but this is just a fun hobby.

These guys are all lines in a stat sheet to me in the same sense I am a line in a spreadsheet to my employer. Where the hell do you people find the energy to worship these people on the one hand or call them bitch *** divas on the other?

EDIT: and let’s be clear — I am not at all a “shut up and dribble” person. I think it’s great when players use their platform to speak out for causes they believe in. But that in no way impacts my enjoyment of the player when they lace ‘em up and step on the court. That I agree with Donovan Mitchell’s advocacy and disagree with John Stockton’s advocacy has affected my esteem for each as human beings, but it has in no way affected my esteem for either as Utah Jazz players. I hope that makes sense.
 
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Oneye is a bit overboard and obsessive, but he is right about a lot of things

*And to be clear I'm not against activism and I'm one of the more left posters on the site. I like that Don does that*

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I like how you pretend and twist that answering this question adequately in the way it was asked was hard or something, it wasn’t, and he refused to do it.
Living in reality, 'I'm happy' is an answer to 'Are you happy in Utah?'. Reality doesn't need magic word.

PS I’d approve if so Rudy.
You approve of one player sabotaging the PR of another player? OK. I think that ends this conversation for me.
 
I don't understand personally disliking any current Jazz player. I think they are all good people from what I can tell.

Sure I might not like a contract, a trade that got them here or maybe their fit, but all these Jazzmen are good people. No need for personal attacks based off an unsubstantiated feeling one here might have.

This negativity is toxic.

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