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Harambe

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Hey guys,

John Stewart's awesome. We know that. I hope you saw his Burned Notice blow up.

Didn't?

Here ya go!

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/stewart-blows-up-on-gop-over-climate-change-pushing-a-million-pounds-of-idiot-up-a-mountain/

If you don't like John Stewart, then you're clearly different than me. Ok, great. Watch it anyway and fast forward to the actual questions representatives are asking about climate change and ignore his hilarious rhetoric.

Now... do you think maybe members of this committee, Republican, Democrat, or Independent, should perhaps have a basic understanding of a hard science? And probably an understanding of the scientific process?

Let's not take this down the climate change road. I'm not even going to get in to that... listen to those questions/answers::

Steve Stockman, Texas:
"Is the wobbling of the Earth included in any of your models... you said no. When you have a model, and you're going to leave the most important impact of that model out of our theory, and not talk about global wobbling, how can you make projections?"

This first one doesn't seem too bad. But the answer of course is that the effect of wobbling(which happens in time scales of 22,000-100,000 years) is so time expansive, that on the models we're working off of (100 years), the effects are negligible. So, had dear Mr Stockman understood that there was a vast difference in time frames between wobbling and our very short 100 years models, he would not have wasted the time with the question.

Next up; Dana Rohrabacher, California
At what point a level of CO2, does CO2 become damaging to human beings

Which, no one is arguing, contemplating, thinking or talking about in this conversation whatsoever. We're speaking of the effects of excess CO2 in the atmosphere.

And Larry Bucshon - Indiana. He takes a minute to make a statement:
It's not about effecting the global temperature or climate change.
There's public comments out there that that question has been asked and answered saying no

The Sysyphus of course reminding him that perhaps he should read scientific literature rather than the public comments. Great waste of time there telling us that the public have said no. But Mr Bucshon is not done, and lets slip this doosey

In fact all the climatologists whose career depends on the climate changing to keep themselves publishing articles.. I could read that, but I just don't believe it

So there he goes, admitting that he hasn't read any of the articles but he just doesn't believe it. In this one statement he shows that he holds his opinion higher than professionals that write these things. People that are paid to write articles. That's right... those people that went to school for all those years are writing up these articles and papers purely because they want money coming in. I do not believe the scientists because it is their profession, not their hobby. Might be nice to note that his three biggest funders are Murray Energy, Koch Enterprises, and Peabody Energy.

Our Friend Steve Stockman again
How long will it take for the sea level to rise two feet. I mean, think about it if your ice cube melts in your glass, it don't overflow. It's displacement. This is some of the things they're talking about mathematically and scientifically don't make sense.

From the same guy that didn't even bother reading up on what wobbling actually is, or what these models are looking at. Again showing that he see's the big words, but doesn't care to look at what they actually mean.

At the end of it all is Bucshon asking not to turn this into a scare tactics contest. As that's appalling to use medical information to scare children about ashtma attacks, or warn people about heart attacks. OR "It's unfair to talk about our medical or scientific consequences of our actions, because it's scary".

I didn't actually watch this when it came on, but I about blew my top a few minutes ago when I did read it. So, to appease myself and get my blood pressure back down, I did something about it. I made a petition on whitehouse.gov.

Go sign it, if you care to. Remember: this is not about climate change or global warming. It's about removing blatant ignorance and stupidity from our government committee's.

https://wh.gov/ilwxv
 
I don't get involved anymore. At the end of the day, democrats and republicans are owned by the same people, and those people aren't you and me.

They will do what is good for health insurance companies (not whats good for you and me), big business, oil, etc. There is a reason why every politician is standing for "left wing ideals" or "right wing standards" and they get to Washington and become liberal or conservative. It's because once they win, they are in debt to the corporations that had them elected. We are irrelevant.

So, I'm not surprised the politicians are this dumb. They are told how to vote, not by you and me, but by the companies that donated to their cause. They don't need to know any of this, because they aren't calling the shots.

Their job is to look good on CSPAN and 24 hr news outlets (and they are equally as trashy) and not get their picture taken when they are out with hookers and blow.
 
I don't get involved anymore. At the end of the day, democrats and republicans are owned by the same people, and those people aren't you and me.

They will do what is good for health insurance companies (not whats good for you and me), big business, oil, etc. There is a reason why every politician is standing for "left wing ideals" or "right wing standards" and they get to Washington and become liberal or conservative. It's because once they win, they are in debt to the corporations that had them elected. We are irrelevant.

So, I'm not surprised the politicians are this dumb. They are told how to vote, not by you and me, but by the companies that donated to their cause. They don't need to know any of this, because they aren't calling the shots.

Their job is to look good on CSPAN and 24 hr news outlets (and they are equally as trashy) and not get their picture taken when they are out with hookers and blow.

Doing something about it is probably in our children's best interest.
 
I don't get involved anymore. At the end of the day, democrats and republicans are owned by the same people, and those people aren't you and me.

This goes back and forth. When enough people get angry, the corporate cronies start becoming populists again (as happened in the early 1900s).
 
Doing something about it is probably in our children's best interest.

What can we do? As a whole, the peeps are too apathetic. Too many people like me who are too beat down to fight the man.

The left is too organized and the right is too fragmented. There is no leadership and no good, honest discussion. We haven't hit the bottom yet.
 
What can we do? As a whole, the peeps are too apathetic. Too many people like me who are too beat down to fight the man.

The left is too organized and the right is too fragmented. There is no leadership and no good, honest discussion. We haven't hit the bottom yet.

As far as I'm concerned we are. I'm not blanketing the house and senate with regulations, as economic, health, and social services experts have their place. But this is the House Committee on Science, space and technology. This, of all places, should have some sort of filter.
 
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