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Stoked said:
Ignore the haters Eminence. Some people just can't handle anyone new. They seem incapable of being nice.
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Thanks for the support :) And not too worried, pretty sure ncoloradojazz didn't even actually read it.

Could I get a bit of your opinion on it? Biggest problem is obviously the huge amount of youth (which in turn could cause problems when re-signing Hayward and the like). Picks are also obviously a stretch and have never happened before, but I wouldn't say it's not possible with the future assets we have stockpiled.

In my opinion we should either use those assets to grab what we view as a sure-fire stud to pair with our core, or move them to take several chances (eg De Paula). But either way I think now is the time for us to seriously look at making that move.
 
NAOS said:
So all it takes for you is to (a) invent a never-before-seen scenario (i.e. 5 first-round draft picks) and (b) some very short player profiles? ok
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I'm not sorry I can go with the flow and think an idea out without attacking as you and NColorado have. Even if it is highly unlikely to happen.

You could have prposed alternatives for certain players or even alternative ideas. Instead you attacked.

Knock it off.
 
NAOS said:
You're absolutely bonkers if you think the FO would bring in that many new guys. Ever. But especially after the chemistry that was developed last year. I also LOLed at the idea that we somehow scraped together 4 additional first round picks in a single year. Has this ever happened for any franchise, braugh?
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^this wasn't a hateful thing to say. At all

Eminence said:
6 new guys out of 15 is crazy? Losing 2.5 people who played significant minutes last season (Burke/Booker .5 Burks). Yeah, it's not really that wild at all.

The picks are a stretch for sure, I listed every guy at their peak draft choice in my mind in a 'guarantee we get them' sort of idea, but some (Jaiteh/Holmes in particular) could be there much later into the mid 2nd. The picks would certainly be the crazy part of it, but we need to turn all those future picks into players sometime, why not now?
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^this was his follow-up. It ignored my questions about precedent, so I left a shorter reply.

Stoked is too sensitive
 
Stoked said:
I'm not sorry I can go with the flow and think an idea out without attacking as you and NColorado have. Even if it is highly unlikely to happen.

You could have prposed alternatives for certain players or even alternative ideas. Instead you attacked.

Knock it off.
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stfu
 
Some questions:

Why George Lucas de Paula over Cotton. Seems like an uneccesary change only for the sake of making a change. COtton has earned it.

Why 10 deep when playoff rotations are not that deep? Usually 8-9 guys.

I see that Booker, Burks and Burke are MIA. You mention that you have no idea how this would happen. Did you look to see what range these players in the draft are going at? That might help you come up with some of your own ideas.

Why the desire to revamp our wings when you have Hayward, Hood, Burks and Millsap under contract? That is a nice collection. Who do you see as the weak link and why?
 
NAOS said:
^this wasn't a hateful thing to say. At all



^this was his follow-up. It ignored my questions about precedent, so I left a shorter reply.

Stoked is too sensitive
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You acted like a jerk and got called on it. By one of the posters that is friendliest to you no less.

Can we still be "friends"?
 
NAOS said:
a jerk, eh?

Sorry you're having a tough morning, gui. Sooo sensitive.
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I cried into my coke this morning, twice. Damn estrogen pills.

Sorry me calling you out upset you. Bro hug?
 
Hug me and find out. Just don't fall in love with me.

I don't date jerks.
 
Stoked said:
Some questions:

Why George Lucas de Paula over Cotton. Seems like an uneccesary change only for the sake of making a change. COtton has earned it.

Why 10 deep when playoff rotations are not that deep? Usually 8-9 guys.

I see that Booker, Burks and Burke are MIA. You mention that you have no idea how this would happen. Did you look to see what range these players in the draft are going at? That might help you come up with some of your own ideas.

Why the desire to revamp our wings when you have Hayward, Hood, Burks and Millsap under contract? That is a nice collection. Who do you see as the weak link and why?
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Yay, actual thoughts :) Anywho

-De Paula- I see as an asset grab, I think he will turn out much better than what a late first/early second would cost us. If he doesn't it doesn't cost too much, if he does he's a potential asset in the future (think Schroder). But if we weren't willing to or unable to get him then cutting him from the plan for Cotton doesn't really have any great effect.

-10 deep mostly for injuries, and for the fact that lots of these guys are young, likely a few of them wouldn't turn out how I'd hoped. RHJ/Booker/Jaiteh being guys I'd see losing minutes in a playoff scenario.

-Burks is the big one on what would happen to him, not really sure. Tried to express that we had a lot of options with Booker- part of a trade to take back salary and get picks, keep him(probably no Holmes in that idea-duplicate each others offense though I feel Holmes will be the superior defender), maybe as a piece, lots of options. I use Draftexpress as my usual guide for prospect value- Booker(15), RHJ(22), De Paula(28), Jaiteh(35), Holmes(50). I see De Paula and Holmes fluctuate a bit from other sources so I averaged them to around late first/early second. Burke I see as late first round value at this point, maybe just a straight up flip by having somebody pick Jiateh/De Paula and then trading with them.

-I like all of our wings individually but I don't really love them as a collective. Hayward is obviously the best of the lot so I feel he's the one we should look to build around. One of Hood/Burks is great but I feel like having both of them is a little redundant, I'd like to flip one of them for a 3/D player(Booker is the player I see filling that best in the draft) to play with the starting lineup and have the other come off the bench to lead that squad. I like Millsap but I have my doubts, basically hoping to replace him with a bigger/younger version of the same role with RHJ.

And really the big key of it all is Teodosic, if we don't think we could get him then adding all this additional youth without a fairly knowledgeable vet and keeping Exum as the starting PG probably would work out really terribly.
 
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