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Enes Kanter still unsigned

zbone said:
I don't say we should have kept Kanter. I say we traded him for cheap
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We traded him for what we could get.
Or do you think Chicago offered jimmy butler for kanter, New Orleans offered Anthony Davis, and the warriors offered steph curry and Dennis Lindsey was like no thanks we are looking for a first round pick and tibor pleiss?

What should the jazz have done in your opinion?
 
fishonjazz said:
We traded him for what we could get.
Or do you think Chicago offered jimmy butler for kanter, New Orleans offered Anthony Davis, and the warriors offered steph curry and Dennis Lindsey was like no thanks we are looking for a first round pick and tibor pleiss?

What should the jazz have done in your opinion?
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It's too late to seek alternatives when your best offer is 20 cents on the dollar. The fact that you ended in this situation means you ****ed up badly some time earlier.
 
zbone said:
It's too late to seek alternatives when your best offer is 20 cents on the dollar. The fact that you ended in this situation means you ****ed up badly some time earlier.
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No. it means that you drafted an all world center several times better than Enes Kanter almost by accident. This changed the entire dynamic of the situation. Rudy was drafted to be Kanter's backup. He turned out to be much more, giving the Jazz the opportunity to not have to put up with Kanter's drama. If there is no Rudy Gobert, this entire thing goes down way differently. The problem is that no one knew that Rudy Gobert was "Rudy, Eater of Souls" until the last year of Kanter's contract. So yes, we could have gotten more for Kanter by trading him two years ago, but no one dreamed Rudy would be who he is now.

You get a chance to go to the prom with the prom queen you make it happen even if you have to extricate yourself from your current arrangement with the fat stupid girl with the unibrow. You don't obsess that some other guy might be taking that fat stupid unibrow girl to the prom and taking her out for steak and lobster. That is HIS problem. You are there with the prom queen. Enjoy yourself.
 
zbone said:
It's too late to seek alternatives when your best offer is 20 cents on the dollar. The fact that you ended in this situation means you ****ed up badly some time earlier.
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He never had more value than that. We got what we did out of OKC because they had to make a move. Kanter was always a problem. The Jazz got what Kanter was worth and were never getting more than that. They wanted a 1st round pick and got it. Kanter's value to the Jazz was always overstated here. His contract was expiring, before the last year he was simply not worth anything.
 
gregbroncs said:
He never had more value than that. We got what we did out of OKC because they had to make a move. Kanter was always a problem. The Jazz got what Kanter was worth and were never getting more than that. They wanted a 1st round pick and got it. Kanter's value to the Jazz was always overstated here. His contract was expiring, before the last year he was simply not worth anything.
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Care to give an example of a player traded for late first rounder and scraps who gets max money same season?
Because obviously the Jazz can't be the first team to end up with an RFA who about to get max which they aren't prepared to match.
 
zbone said:
It's too late to seek alternatives when your best offer is 20 cents on the dollar. The fact that you ended in this situation means you ****ed up badly some time earlier.
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I ask again.
What should the jazz have done?
 
Stifle Tower said:
Perhaps. I wonder if Portland really wanted him.
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I always wonder about stuff like this after a team offers a max contract to a player that almost certainly will be matched. I think maybe the agents are orchestrating things behind the scenes with wink wink deals. Like, help us with this and we will help you with a contract or player down the road. Wondered the same thing last year with Hayward. Why Charlotte would offer that deal knowing 100% that we were going to match.
 
zbone said:
Fire Corbin after his second season and develop the core properly
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Are you suggesting Kanter was able to put up those numbers in OKC without being developed in Utah? How did he get from where he was as a rookie to where he is now?
 
zbone said:
Fire Corbin after his second season and develop the core properly
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No thanks. I like where this team is at.
If we do what you say then we might not have quin, exum, Gobert, pleiss, or okc draft pick. Plus we would be paying kanter max money (or he would have walked for nothing) to not play defense.
Imo quin, exum, first round pick, pliess and Gobert > overpaid kanter

I think everything has worked out Damn near perfectly for the jazz. Can't wait for next season.
 
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