ENES KANTER: The third and last game of the preparation tourney will start in half an hour

[Dr. Jones]

Wish I had known that this game started earlier. Oh well, sounds like it was pretty similar to the last two games...

I think we need to ask ourselves, on this team, would Marc Gasol or Al Horford etc. do much better than Kanter has the past 3 games? Honestly, I don't think so. I mean, Kanter had 7 points and 7 rebounds in the first game right? I can see Marc getting 10 n 10 at best on this huck n' chuck team, so what are people complaining about? Does anyone seriously think we can make any assumptions about Kanter at this point?

Sure, I think some assumptions can be made.

- He's rusty
- He's in a hurry
- He plays with a bunch of chuckers
- His team was poorly coached

wait ... no, we can't make any real assumptions, lol.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Too be fair, it didn't really look like Kanter knew what he was doing out there. When #11 (the other center on the team) was in the game, it looked like they were running actual sets and ball movement seemed smoother. When Kanter is in the game he is just setting picks every chance he gets, and receiving the ball at the 3 point line to hand off to another guard. He looked scared of getting the ball and wasn't aggressively asking for the ball when he was open down low.

Agree. None of that concerns me, but I agree.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Wish I had known that this game started earlier. Oh well, sounds like it was pretty similar to the last two games...

I think we need to ask ourselves, on this team, would Marc Gasol or Al Horford etc. do much better than Kanter has the past 3 games? Honestly, I don't think so. I mean, Kanter had 7 points and 7 rebounds in the first game right? I can see Marc getting 10 n 10 at best on this huck n' chuck team, so what are people complaining about? Does anyone seriously think we can make any assumptions about Kanter at this point?

Well I think we can clear up some past assumptions. Kanter is not a post moves prodigy or an offensive renaissance man like many thought. Honestly, I'm a little worried that he might be a bust (but I always thought that) because I think his dominance in past U-Whatever tournaments was due to his distinct physical advantages over his same aged peers.

 

[Siro]

I see that the herd have decided Kanter is a bust. It's okay, next time he has a decent game he'll be back to the potential-savior status.

 

[larryselbows]

I'd take these games with a grain of salt. Ersan İlyasova, who's proven to able to put up good numbers in the NBA, looked horrible.

Lulz, please don't ever again use Ersan Ilyasova as focal point for any basketball related argument.

 

[My2Cents]

I see that the herd have decided Kanter is a bust. It's okay, next time he has a decent game he'll be back to the potential-savior status.

It's a small herd.

 

[sepanol]

Too be fair, it didn't really look like Kanter knew what he was doing out there. When #11 (the other center on the team) was in the game, it looked like they were running actual sets and ball movement seemed smoother. When Kanter is in the game he is just setting picks every chance he gets, and receiving the ball at the 3 point line to hand off to another guard. He looked scared of getting the ball and wasn't aggressively asking for the ball when he was open down low.

The #11 plays in turkey and teammates with couple of the players. If you look at the points he made, the assists mostly came from Emir Preldzic from the same team (he was the best player for turkey today and his rights are held by wizards), they are making the same plays all year long but its first time Kanter played in this team and he barely got the ball.

Actually it sucked that in those 3 days turkish offense run very badly. They didnt move the ball to post and Kanter didnt get any chance to prove his offensive skills.

After these 3 games i can say that im not as optimistic as before about his rookie year, he seems very rusty, but he is more hardworking than i thought and his defense improved by margin in 3 days. Im laughing at people who compares his defense to Boozer because there is nothing similar.

I think Kanter will get better in the game as he will take larger roles in his teams, either jazz or Turkey. Right now he is just in a hurry to prove something on the court and he makes mistakes. If you add the lackness of games for 2 years and the unorganized offense of Turkey where Kanter had no role at all, he just tried to grab the rebounds and make position for himself without help of any guards, i think its not fair to criticize him like he is a bust or whatever.

His performance didnt satisfy me neither but there were 1 million factors for his bad performance. I dont think he will get many mins in the euro basket but at least we will get to see his play in more serious games.

But honestly, i dont think Turkey will do anything remarkable in this tournament. We were world second last year and we deserved but right now we play like ****. No post games, no good defense at all. And i agree with Archie, Ersan who is actually the best turkish player in the team, sucked in each of 3 games. Thats why im not sure how much Enes can prove in this chaotic team. I just hope he will get more playing time and have some professional game experience till the season starts.

 

[Mission Accomplished]

Expectations are a little higher on Kanter being the 3rd pick. I guess the hype got to me, was expecting him to have a mini breakout game by now.

He is a little sluggish out there. Remember Dwill throwing the ball at Hayward. We definitely need to end the lockout overseas has some good players. But, I don't think that it is a place for anyone that is still developing. I would be better for Kanter if he was hanging with Burk and Hayward. Because the Jazz are going to run a smoother system to get him the ball in space. If we were to watch Favors on the Nets it would be very underwhelming. Burk is doing great because he can create, it is hard to create that much being big other have to create for you.

 

[Fishsticks]

Yeah ... that's what I said. Looks like I've got a little stalker, love it. You say he'll be one of the biggest busts in draft history, I said he needs a year to get acclimated, I said your 'bust' statement was just dumb, you said I am arrogant and ignorant. Shall we move on now, or continue?

Lmao. Stalking? Hardly. You talked all this mess about how great kanter is and you have been owned. Hard.

 

[Fishsticks]

To clarify things a bust for a 3rd pick could still be a serviceable bench player. For instance Darko is a serviceable player but globally considered a bust having been taken 1st. I think that's what Verlin is saying.

Exactly. Pkm has a dense visor on at all times.

 

[aybars]

spain:90 Lithuania:78

Jonas V had 10 points 4 rebbounds 1 block in 14-15 min.he had a terrible first half with 2 points from free throws with 0 rebounds,he got blocked by the rim,took the rebound and missed the shot from 2 inches,no minutes in third quarter,he got in when 6 minutes playing time left(spain was leading the game with 21 points) on fourth quarter,made 2 points from free throws and 4 points with 2 dunks.

 

[Dr. Jones]

The #11 plays in turkey and teammates with couple of the players. If you look at the points he made, the assists mostly came from Emir Preldzic from the same team (he was the best player for turkey today and his rights are held by wizards), they are making the same plays all year long but its first time Kanter played in this team and he barely got the ball.

Actually it sucked that in those 3 days turkish offense run very badly. They didnt move the ball to post and Kanter didnt get any chance to prove his offensive skills.

After these 3 games i can say that im not as optimistic as before about his rookie year, he seems very rusty, but he is more hardworking than i thought and his defense improved by margin in 3 days. Im laughing at people who compares his defense to Boozer because there is nothing similar.

I think Kanter will get better in the game as he will take larger roles in his teams, either jazz or Turkey. Right now he is just in a hurry to prove something on the court and he makes mistakes. If you add the lackness of games for 2 years and the unorganized offense of Turkey where Kanter had no role at all, he just tried to grab the rebounds and make position for himself without help of any guards, i think its not fair to criticize him like he is a bust or whatever.

His performance didnt satisfy me neither but there were 1 million factors for his bad performance. I dont think he will get many mins in the euro basket but at least we will get to see his play in more serious games.

But honestly, i dont think Turkey will do anything remarkable in this tournament. We were world second last year and we deserved but right now we play like ****. No post games, no good defense at all. And i agree with Archie, Ersan who is actually the best turkish player in the team, sucked in each of 3 games. Thats why im not sure how much Enes can prove in this chaotic team. I just hope he will get more playing time and have some professional game experience till the season starts.

Thanks for your insight, much appreciated.