It actually helps the Jazz. When they traded for Big Al they had to give up a few draft picks (If I'm not mistaken the draft pick they got for Ronnie Brewer was also included in the deal.) Teams are hesitant to give up a draft pick because they don't know what its value is. If it's a lottery pick it could be worth $2-4 million, if its a late first round pick its worth something like $1-2 million (not to mention it would stink if you were planning on being 13th that year and you won the lottery and got the first pick!)
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It actually helps the Jazz. When they traded for Big Al they had to give up a few draft picks (If I'm not mistaken the draft pick they got for Ronnie Brewer was also included in the deal.) Teams are hesitant to give up a draft pick because they don't know what its value is. If it's a lottery pick it could be worth $2-4 million, if its a late first round pick its worth something like $1-2 million (not to mention it would stink if you were planning on being 13th that year and you won the lottery and got the first pick!)
aybars
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HipHopAnonymous
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Has ESPN mock draft ever forecasted the actual pick the Jazz got? Other than some generator that if you run it 3000 times it may pick it right 3% of the time?
At the time of the trade I thought it was stupid to give minnesota 2 first rounders for us to take AJ off their hands. We also gave them a young player in Koufus. I know people think he sucks but he was very young and is now in Denver's rotation. The fact is no one knows at this point if we will have two, one or zero 1st picks. It is going to go down to the wire.
Jeremy Lamb seems like CJ Miles v2.0.
Darkwing Duck
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Koufos is in the rotation because Nene was hurt and McGee hasn't played yet.
davidbenoit
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I don't understand the whole "well I guess we're not going to get the GS pick anymore" talk. They still have enough personnel to win at least 1/3 of their games. They've got a great home court advantage and Their coach is going to play to win since it's his first season there. I would say there is still a 70 percent chance or so we keep the pick.
I wonder if the Jazz would pick up both Lillard and Marshall in the draft? Play each 20 a game and wait and see who develops faster.
I wonder if the Jazz would pick up both Lillard and Marshall in the draft? Play each 20 a game and wait and see who develops faster.
Koufus blows and I would gladly put him in any trade just to get him out of Utah. The dude was terrible and played weaker than Shawn Bradley.
Also, the Warriors aren't making the playoffs next year either. If we don't get it this year, we will get it next. The Warriors suck and Marc Jackson is their coach.
dipship31
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If they are terrible next year and the year after that though we're stuck with (2) 2nd rounders!
If they are terrible next year and the year after that though we're stuck with (2) 2nd rounders!
Well, next year they shouldn't be as terrible. They have Curry and Bogut, who will win games when healthy, but are both guaranteed missing some games at least. Add to that improved Thompson and a rookie, who knows. I would predict them having close to 50% record.
davidbenoit
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Yes, if we don't get it this year we will more than likely get it next year. But with the depth of this draft and the fact that we might have another lottery pick to pair it with for a trade/better pick, we want this year's pick.
Stifle Tower
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Really?
1. Detroti: after a horrible 4-20 start, Detroit has gone 12-9. And look at their recent losses, all tough ones against Utah, Clippers and Phoenix. I see them winning 7-10 more games, which puts them in the 23-26 win range.
2. Sacramento is a very good home team (12-9 thus far). Count on them splitting their twelve remaining home games and maybe picking up a road win against a team like Golden State or New Orleans. So put them in the 22-24 win range.
3. Cleveland plays about the same on the road as at home. Let's just assume they maintain their current winning percentage of .395. That translates to 26 wins.
4. GS replaced their best scorer with Richard Jefferson and their only tough inside presence (Udoh) with a player who will be wearing a sport coat and tie for the rest of the season. Maybe...maybe...they win 4 or 5 games the rest of the year. I think the next week and a half will tell us for sure if the W's have been told to tank. They have home games against NO, NJ and SAC and road games vs. NO and POR. Also home vs. LA Lakers and away against Houston, but I'm not expecting them to win either of those. If the W's win 3 or 4 of the above games, we have a chance to keep the lottery pick. Lose all but 1-2 and we'll know they're in full tank mode.
Does not look promising that either one will play this year. They did get R. Jefferson so he may help and considering how bad their 4/5 spot is right now Hickson actually might help.
Yes I agree, Detroit/Sactown/Cleveland are playing hard and they want to win. They know they're not going to get the top 3 spots in the draft and picks 4-8 in this draft are more or less interchangeable. So I think they'd rather get some confidence under their belt for next year.
BluesRocker
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I would love a Lamb and Lillard draft. Lamb is going to be a beast
freakazoid
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This would mean that there is in fact no God.
d@!!0n0rcutt
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Just to clear up the confusion...WE (Utah Jazz), DO NOT GET THE GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS PICK IF IT IS PICKS 1-7 OF THIS DRAFT AFTER THE LOTTERY, NOT BEFORE, (example) SO IF THEY (The Warriors) FINISH WITH THE 8TH WORST RECORD AND WIN IN THE LOTTERY (meaning they would get a top 3 pick) WE DO NOT GET THE DRAFT PICK FOR THIS YEAR, BUT IF IT TURNS UP TO BE 8-30 PICKS AFTER THE LOTTERY THEN WE GET THE PICK, AND IF THAT HAPPENS AND WE USE THE PICK SO THEN WE DON'T GET TO USE THE PICK NEXT YEAR OR YEARS AFTER.
AS FOR OUR PICK FOR THIS YEAR IT IS A LOT MORE SIMPLE BUT WHO KNOWS SOME OF YOU MIGHT MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT...IF WE MAKE THE PLAYOFFS THE TIMBERWOLVES GET OUR PICK, AND IF WE MISS THE PLAYOFFS WE (Utah Jazz) GET OUR PICK.
Just to clear up the confusion that's already been amply addressed CAPS LOCK AND DO NOT AND AFTER AND MORE.