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3. Who should the Jazz take with the No. 3 pick?

Jay Aych, The Painted Area: Utah should go for Jan Vesely, a great athlete, solid defender and good ball handler for his size. Erratic shooter, but his form is correctable. He's a good fit with the Jazz, particularly if they continue to run flex sets offensively, as Vesely is a great finisher off cuts and a reliable post-up threat off of cross-screen action.

Hayes Davenport, CelticsHub.com: Enes Kanter. They want a point guard, but Brandon Knight's future as a distributor is iffy at best; Kanter's a much safer pick in a draft in which safety is an exotic resource. He's huge with a shooting touch, and his rebounding and free throw rate translate well. Plus, John Calipari, Knight's own college coach, prefers Kanter. He's trustworthy, right? No?

Patrick Hayes, Piston Powered.com: The Jazz have talented players under contract in the frontcourt in Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap, but unfortunately, both are undersized. Jonas Valanciunas makes them significantly bigger and, hopefully down the road. His hands and ability to catch and finish in the paint would be a nice complement next to Millsap or Jefferson.

John Krolik, Cavs: The Blog: Kanter has serious skills, and a Derrick Favors/Kanter frontcourt could be an exciting foundation to build around. This recommendation comes with the hopes that the Jazz can find some way to get rid of Al Jefferson, who destroys every defense he touches, and that local favorite Jimmer Fredette will be available for the Jazz at the No. 12 spot.

Michael McNamara, Hornets 247: Most people will say Knight or Walker here, but I am not a fan of going strictly for need with a top-three pick. I know that Utah already has a nice trio of big men, but it never hurts to add another one. I'd take Enes Kanter and grab a point guard with pick No. 12 or on the free-agent market (Mario Chalmers?).

I think I agree with McNamara the most. You don't need a flashy PG to win, you just need a solid PG with good composure and can shoot an occasional 3pt. We don't need another PG who's gonna dominate the ball.
 
I think I agree with McNamara the most. You don't need a flashy PG to win, you just need a solid PG with good composure and can shoot an occasional 3pt. We don't need another PG who's gonna dominate the ball.

And I agree that you agree with McNamara, speaks the most sense. I really think Kanter is a safer bet than Knight. He's a great player, but it'd be tough for me to turn down such an NBA ready body. Now his skill sets have question marks, and his defense is suspect, but Knight's ability to find people and pass under pressure is also suspect. If KOC thinks Kanter an Knight are tied for BPA, you take the big......the tie should always go to the big.
 
And I agree that you agree with McNamara, speaks the most sense. I really think Kanter is a safer bet than Knight. He's a great player, but it'd be tough for me to turn down such an NBA ready body. Now his skill sets have question marks, and his defense is suspect, but Knight's ability to find people and pass under pressure is also suspect. If KOC thinks Kanter an Knight are tied for BPA, you take the big......the tie should always go to the big.

Why? This sounds like another cliche. The way I see it, bigs are less important now than almost ever in the NBA. It is a guard or wing driven league. No team in the final four had a "dominant" big. Noah and chandler are nice but not dominant. The teams thrived on team defense and wing play, or guards/slashers who could go to the basket. (I don't consider nowitski a big, he is a small forward in a 7 foot body.). I sure hope the jazz brain trust aren't falling back on cliches in making their choice. I'm not pro or anti Kanter but I don't buy the "big is always better" argument.
 
My list at three is Kanter, Williams, Valanciunas. Irving won't be there and everyone else isn't a top three pick. I would move down to get Vesely, Knight, Kemba or Leonard. Biyombo is not a top 10 pick in my opinion. I would rather get another PG through FA or trade. Harris is fine for now and the Jazz are not going anywhere for the next couple of years so I would try to find a backup PG at 12 or trade for one that has already proven himself.
 
Gordon Chiesa on 1320 just gave his Jazz draft prediction- I might've missed part of the 12th pick options but here is a paraphrase of what I caught:

Chiesa: "Enes Kanter with the 3rd pick, and with the 12th pick Chris Singleton or Morris*. Based on what I know of the jazz internal talk about what thier needs are."

* I didn't catch which Morris he was talking about, and he might've mentioned another player at 12 too. Did anyone else listen in?
 
My list at three is Kanter, Williams, Valanciunas. Irving won't be there and everyone else isn't a top three pick.

Well, if Irving isn't there, one of Kanter and Williams is going to be there. Hard to have a list of three when two of them are guaranteed to be there.
 
I didn't catch which Morris he was talking about, and he might've mentioned another player at 12 too. Did anyone else listen in?

Thought he said Jimmer, not Morris -- though I was only half listening.
 
I would be ok with Kanter and just hope Jimmer is there at 12. Then try and move Millsap for a 3. Or Draft Knight at 3 and Jimmer at 12 and move Harris for Batum...Im just glad Im not making the choice. Good luck KOC! Don't let us down!
 
I know if we pick Vesely or Valaciunas at 3... KOC really sees something special... so I'd probably be happy.
 
McNamara does make the most sense. That would be pretty sweet if we could pry Chalmers away with a decent contract.

As for the #3 pick, I would rather the Jazz take Kanter, but I also can see them going for Jonas Valanciunas. Knight makes me nervous, mostly because he seems like he'd be less loyal for some reason. He reminds me of how noncommittal Deron was.

The #12 pick is a little more tricky. I say either keep Harris and trade Millsap for a wing or trade both and get a nice package of a wing and veteran PG. Then, with the #12 you can safely pick Jimmer and not worry about filling a need with a lesser talent. Jimmer, fills another need with great outside shooting. We could go for Klay, but he bugs me for many reasons. lol

In summary, trades will greatly determine who we pick. Otherwise, if no trades, then Kanter/Jimmer sounds fine by me. Otherwise, if Kanter isn't there, Williams/Jimmer. If Jimmer isn't there, Kanter/Singleton or Kanter/Brooks. Gotta a good vibe about Brooks but not 100% on him.
 
McNamara does make the most sense. That would be pretty sweet if we could pry Chalmers away with a decent contract.

As for the #3 pick, I would rather the Jazz take Kanter, but I also can see them going for Jonas Valanciunas. Knight makes me nervous, mostly because he seems like he'd be less loyal for some reason. He reminds me of how noncommittal Deron was.

The #12 pick is a little more tricky. I say either keep Harris and trade Millsap for a wing or trade both and get a nice package of a wing and veteran PG. Then, with the #12 you can safely pick Jimmer and not worry about filling a need with a lesser talent. Jimmer, fills another need with great outside shooting. We could go for Klay, but he bugs me for many reasons. lol

In summary, trades will greatly determine who we pick. Otherwise, if no trades, then Kanter/Jimmer sounds fine by me. Otherwise, if Kanter isn't there, Williams/Jimmer. If Jimmer isn't there, Kanter/Singleton or Kanter/Brooks. Gotta a good vibe about Brooks but not 100% on him.

Curious to what makes you say that about Knight.
 
Knight is from South Beach, his favorite team is the Heat.

I'm afraid that the Jazz and Jazz Nation are looking for two player charecteristics that are nearly impossible to come by: a player who like Salt Lake and players who are loyal.

It's the new NBA reality.
 
Knight is from South Beach, his favorite team is the Heat.

I'm afraid that the Jazz and Jazz Nation are looking for two player charecteristics that are nearly impossible to come by: a player who like Salt Lake and players who are loyal.

It's the new NBA reality.

If anything that should show how loyal he is. How many players are from State X and like the Lakers? Or the Celtics? He likes his hometown team, shocker.
 
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