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Jingled said:








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Well if you're honest with yourself then you would realize that your lack of action to acquire more athletic guys who can defend and make shots should be on you. I swear I do not want to hear about being close and injuries. The fact is the Jazz were not that good after the all-star break. They cannot defend the perimeter and they have no studs who play the SF/PF. when DM is play PG then they have no NBA starter playing the position. I love Royce but he should be coming off the bench unless he vastly improves his handles and offensive game which at this point I do not see it happening.
 
oneye said:
I know that he’s got time for cryptic Twitter posts but not a 5 minute zoom call as the face of the franchise. Again, he is a trash dude behind that PR.
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I am sure DM could careless about your hatred for him. Geez go change your diapers. We get it you don't like DM. Did he not sign an autograph or something? Never mind I really don't care.
 
Some interesting names joining JIngles: BOOMERS 19-MAN OLYMPIC SQUAD
Aron BAYNES, Ryan BROEKHOFF, Xavier COOKS, Mitchell CREEK, Matthew DELLAVEDOVA, Dante EXUM, Joshua GIDDEY, Christopher GOULDING, Josh GREEN, Isaac HUMPHRIES, Joe INGLES, Nicholas KAY, Jock LANDALE, Patty MILLS, Brock MOTUM, Duop REATH, Ben SIMMONS, Nathan SOBEY, Matisse THYBULLE.
 
campaignist said:
I'm with you. I don't think Oni got enough important minutes to decide either way. He's a low cost investment for another year, what do we have to lose? If he can even become a minor worthwhile trade asset, what's the harm?
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He has had a couple years to show something. All you have to do is watch the game and you see why he was the 50th pick. These experts should not take 3 years to know if a guy has it or not. Heck I saw Mann the first game and I thought who is that guy. I never thought he would score 39 pts in a playoff game but you could tell he could guard and had some offensive ability. After a couple of years you can't keep waiting for guys to develop. There has to be some sign that they can play in the NBA and after a few years only Oni gets some minutes and hasn't really done anything to warrant the minutes.
 
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LoPo said:
I understand. But he was a trade target a while back that would have come with assets from Detroit.

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Ahhhh... unfortunately I think we would have got the Detroit version. What he did to them was criminal... play like utter dog **** and tank any possible trade value... get your buyout and then starts playing hard again. I have a very low opinion of hi. So I personally would have been out there.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Yeah, he just kinda sucks at catching and finishing in traffic.
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He’s not coordinated enough to do the basic stuff we want. He has a high center of gravity so guys can move him off his spots too easily. I feel like he’s lost a little bit of his athleticism as well. At this point this is who he is... he won’t magically add this stuff now.

Last night Don dropped off a simple dump pass... he didn’t go up immediately like he may have bobbled it... then fumbles around until the defense blocks it pretty easily... he had another lob pass almost immediately after where the defender angled into him a little and he couldn’t catch it... it’s kind of a foul but it’s also something Giannis or other more stout bigs play through and are coordinated enough to dunk... it became a turnover.

There is a reason they don’t always throw it to him. They do miss him at times but it’s tough to see how clear the angles a passer has at times. I get super frustrated when guys get upset when you miss them but you have no angle to throw the pass you’d like too.
 
NUMBERICA said:
The answer to small-ball actually isn't defense in the context of Rudy. It is that he HAS to impose his will on the game when he is so much bigger. He has to draw triple teams on every roll and has to be able to punish when they switch a guard on him in single coverage with aplomb.

Some of this stuff is outside of Gobert's wheelhouse, but I cannot be convinced that he can't bully a guard and just spin and dunk. We don't need immense skill, we simply need him to play his size. Gobert plays a cerebral and conservative game, but at a certain point, his mentality needs to shift into the alpha he thinks he is and just yak on fools smaller than him.
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Was rudy ever given the ball to punish guys inside? I seem to remember throughout this series our guards ignoring Rudy down low.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Defensively, the Jazz don't remember what it's like to have a legit help defender and not just Rudy trying to guard the whole floor.
Offensively, the Jazz don't remember what it's like to have a guy who can drive and finish at the rim, as well as knock down open shots.
Even one guy like Jerami Grant checks those boxes and changes the outlook of this team.

If that means taking Mike Conley or Bojan Bogdanovic off the floor to make space for that kind of player, you have to do it.
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Pair grant with Spida and Gobert snd you’re looking at a title contender.
 
The Thriller said:
Was rudy ever given the ball to punish guys inside? I seem to remember throughout this series our guards ignoring Rudy down low.
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He’s never ever been that guy. He doesn’t hold his position and catch the ball cleanly. If it isn’t a lob it’s going to be a turnover or an ugly *** hook that has no prayer.
 
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