Exum extension

[JazzyFresh]

I'm confused... I like Exum and want him here, but what has he done to "earn" a lot of money? He's looked good as of late, but he hasn't proven a single thing yet.

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[fishonjazz]

If we are matching a max deal next summer for Exum, that means he had a great season.

Or it means he had an ok season but a team out there offers him a max deal based on potential due to his age/size/speed.

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[fishonjazz]

I'm confused... I like Exum and want him here, but what has he done to "earn" a lot of money? He's looked good as of late, but he hasn't proven a single thing yet.

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Lots of dudes in the nba don't do anything to earn lots of money.
Mosgov. Evan turner etc.
Hell, hayward had his least efficient year of his career in the last year of his previous contact and was rewarded with a max deal.

X is young, fast, and has good size. That's probably enough to get big tone money in the insanity of nba free agency.

Hill thinks he can get 4 years and 132 million after being a mediocre pg all his career for **** sakes.

 

[Game6Conley]

I'm confused... I like Exum and want him here, but what has he done to "earn" a lot of money? He's looked good as of late, but he hasn't proven a single thing yet.

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Things are worth what people will pay for them, the end. not some novel concept about what they've earned, whats proper or fair... Especially in the realm of NBA contracts..

SO basically your question is why would some other team pay him big $$$??

and thats a very simple answer.. because they've got ****ty players to replace.. they can justify paying him big because they're trying to steal him and because it's easy to look at him and say (1)this kid is gonna keep getting better, (2) It's like were buying a lottery pick (3) he looks pretty good (easily a rotation player) already


I've said it for a while now Exum is one of the quickest 6'6" and above players in the league, he projects as a 2-way player.. He meets many qualifications of players who get premium pay for a variety of reasons..

 

[silesian]

Or it means he had an ok season but a team out there offers him a max deal based on potential due to his age/size/speed.

Let's call it the Harrison Barnes syndrome.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

So you think over the next 4 years Hood is going to be twice as valuable as X?
If X turns out to be only half as good as Hood - that would be most depressing.

Until the last 15 games he looked like a guy that might not be in the league in a few years and yes it was depressing.

I hope he builds off of his most recent success but it is a small sample and I'd have a really hard time committing much more than the amount I stated... green has the right attitude... hopefully he's worth a max deal in a year and I expect him to wait but if it's for an extension this summer I'd be really hesitant due to small sample size.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Here is a question... would you give Hood the George Hill treatment... like what SA did with him?

Trade him before having to pay him and take a chance on a guy that has a higher upside? That could have blown up in the Spurs face... for every Kwahi out there there are 10 James Youngs... interesting option and I'll bet Jazzfanz would melt if we did it. Would solve some of the long term cash crunch and I think Hood has great trade value... because he's good of course.

 

[Deleted member 848]

If the choice is between Hood + X & Hill, you have to choose the former.

 

[Miggs]

If the choice is between Hood + X & Hill, you have to choose the former.

No-brainer.

 

[Game6Conley]

Let's call it the Harrison Barnes syndrome.

Understand what you mean bit it's really not the same. Exum is much more in the larvae stage.

Barnes had a championship ring and a gold medal and more combined playoff appearances than the entire 2015-2016 Jazz roster, and he was 23..

 

[Game6Conley]

No-brainer.

If the choice is between Hood + X & Hill, you have to choose the former.

there's no legitimate impetus on the horizon which leads to a choose between X or Hood decision because they're both RFA's...

only way that could even be remotely a choice is if they recklessly run up the cap into Cavs territory, or are dead set on penny pinching.

 

[Magic Spray]

For Exum, I'm in the AK/Hayward category with him...let him play out next season. He is a RFA, let him go earn it.

Not me. For the following reasons:

1. Jazz are perpetually disadvantaged with free agents. So the Undefeated wrote some long think piece about being black in Salt Lake. Spoiler alert, it's pretty boring and sucks if you're a single black dude that's under 30.

2. We all realize that this strategy is precisely why the Jazz could lose Hayward with nothing to show for it? Lindsey said, "Great question, Gordon. Go out and see if you can negotiate a max deal and we'll match it." So then Hayward went and negotiated a max deal with the Whorenets and the Jazz matched.

HOWEVAH!

Air Jordan and Hair Gordon negotiated the terms of that deal which included the opt out. So now =GODMODE HAYWARD has the Jazz over a barrel.

It's almost as if they didn't learn from the lesson of Mo Williams, Wes Matthews, and Paul Millsap(But not CJ Miles, should not have matched mas fresco, even if he is EXACTLY LIKE HOOD, am I right, idiots?). To wit: When you allow your asset to negotiate the terms of your contract with your competitor it's going to be framed in such a way so as to be most disadvantageous for you to match.

Front office has such a boner for advanced stats and ****, project out what Exum's going to be, offer him the most you possibly can justify, stop sending your assets and their agents out to the competition to negotiate the contract you're going to sign.

So ****ing stupid. honestly it's the only thing the FO is ****ing up. But GODDAMN if Hayward leaves it's certain doom.