I've said a few times, if I had to choose between Trump or Hitler it would give me something to think about. Short of that, #nevertrump.
Fainting Hillary
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I've said a few times, if I had to choose between Trump or Hitler it would give me something to think about. Short of that, #nevertrump.
Hilter is so much worse than Trump. On top of Hitler possessing a far more menacing set of ideas, he actually BELIEVES in them. Trump would just be a garbage president and a step in the wrong direction.
Red
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My own spin leaves the conspiracy theories out of the equation. By her campaign not revealing this illness, even though only 2 days earlier for the pneumonia diagnosis, they blundered and placed the focus on distrust of Clinton once again. Yet, many Trump surrogates were focused on false narratives on her health, such as the fraudulent doctor note which was widely distributed until the doctor it was attributed to angrily denounced it as a fake. It's was likely just a case of her not wanting to herself put the focus on her health, and play into Trump's supporters focus on her health. It's likely they hoped the antibiotics would allow the illness to be dealt with, without anyone the wiser. Deception? Well, it was a blunder, but you know it's not cancer or Parkinson's( as some claim it is). Biggest blunder is re-enforcing that very image of Clinton always hiding truths. But she wasn't hiding anything that would disqualify her from office. The campaign miscalculated because Trump has focused on her health, and the unfortunate incident blew their cover. It's the conspiracy theories stating it's not really pneumonia but something far worse that I dismiss as driven by her own haters.
We should be pissed at Clinton. People have long been worried she'd find a way to blow the election.
Red
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Up until the incident, she was campaigning while having pneumonia, not sure for how long before it was actually diagnosed two days prior to that incident.
Red
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What tactic? Seems to me he was only pointing out other Presidents and VP's, in Cheney's case, had health issues without disqualifying them before or during their terms. Of course, Hillary wanted this infection kept secret. A real blunder. And of course the candidate's health should be discussed. They are the 2 oldest individuals to ever run for that office, and the people have a right to know the health of such individuals running for the highest office. But have you seen the doctor Trump used to release a note claiming Trump was "the healthiest individual to ever run for the Presidency"? That doctor said he wrote it, using terms that only Trump could use to describe himself, in a mere 5 minutes, while outside idled the car waiting for someone to run down and hand them the note. Was that some kind of joke?
https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/26/politics/donald-trump-doctor-note/
Red
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Sorry, I'm not familiar with, or remembering, the reference, specifically, "that Harrison guy".
Edit: the ole' light bulb went off. Thought you were referring to our current President and of course I realize now you are referring to President Harrison. Not sure what quality of medical care was available in 1841 but, if you are pointing out that pneumonia can kill, of course it can. Not sure antibiotics were available to administer in 1841?
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Red
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I'm old, but I'm not old enough to have even recognized the term, and seeing now that it dates to the Victorian era, yeah, that is a very odd and archaic way of describing what happened. The doctors I have seen talking about the incident(all Clinton apologists in on the conspiracy?)seem to feel what happened would not be unusual given the diagnosis.
Red
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So, here's some elaboration of events as seen by the Clinton campaign. I do not expect the conspiracist enthusiasts among us to buy this for a second, but, not being much of a fan of conspiracy theories, the whole event seems to me to have a more logical explanation then she actually is hiding Parkinson's or whatever....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...87074c-791b-11e6-ac8e-cf8e0dd91dc7_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...87074c-791b-11e6-ac8e-cf8e0dd91dc7_story.html
Red
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“Antibiotics can take care of pneumonia. What’s the cure for an unhealthy penchant for privacy that repeatedly creates unnecessary problems?” David Axelrod, a former adviser to President Obama, wrote on Twitter.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/us/hillary-clinton-pneumonia.html?_r=0
Yeah, so it's like 90% I would vote for Trump in that situation.
Joe Bagadonuts
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If you want to have a reasonable conversation I'd welcome it. What I won't welcome is allowing you to make up stories about me because you are so offended that I don't like or trust Hillary.