??? How is a church a business???
It's not a church, it's a wedding chapel available for hire.
??? How is a church a business???
Ahh ok... my bad I thought it was a church.It's not a church, it's a wedding chapel available for hire.
I'm mad because these laws only pertain to homosexuals. What about the establishments that still have a "no-shirt, no shoes, no service" policy? That is discrimination against beer-bellied old men. How many of these guys do you see working out in the yard on a weekend? And when they need something from the hardware or garden store we expect them to dirty a shirt or take time out to shower? This is definite discrimination. In fact, extend the law to nudists.Wasn't this a public wedding chapel where the pastors happen to be Christian?
If so I do not see this as an attack on religion, as I do the Houston case Log mentioned. But I do not agree based on it's their business and they shouldn't be forced to do business with anyone they don't want to. But I'm in the distinct minority there.
I hate it when I have to kind of be on your side. It's the lamest thing ever, and it makes me feel filthy... like the 10' pole I use on trout's mom. Luckily, I'm only kind of on your side.
There was no good, legal reason that gay marriage was illegal. And so it should be legalized. That being said, forcing any religion or institute to preform homosexual marriage against their will is just as wrong.
It's called pushing an agenda, bro.
hmmmmm. . . . . .
probably everybody except Trout does a little of that.
Does anyone know exactly how the ordinance is worded?
That idea makes me sick personally.
If you are a business open to the public, you better serve the public. Otherwise, don't open your business to the public.
Say there is a small town in the middle of nowhere that has a whopping one grocery store ( Burlington Colorado comes to mind). Let's also say the nearest grocery store after that one is 30 miles away. If the owner of that store hates gays and refuses to serve maybe the 1 or 2 gay guys in town, does that mean they now have to move our drive 30 miles for groceries? I doubt public pressure is going to shut the place down, and there probably isn't a good financial incentive to open another store.
So again, when you open a business to the public, serve the public.
Wow.. whatever happened to freedom of religion (provided it doesn't harm others)???
Ahh ok... my bad I thought it was a church.
They do not require religious organizations or religious businesses or religious non-profits to comply.
Found this interesting:
https://acluidaho.org/issues/lgbt-equality/
From the site:
So how do they define a religious "business"?
I cannot find the text of the actual NDO for Idaho City or Coeur D'Alene so it is hard to see how this is worded, but it sounds like the wedding chapel could be deemed to be a religious business and would then be exempt.
Freedom and equality should be going both ways. If gay people have right to marry then pastors, priests, mohels, mulas and other religious servants should have right not to marry them. It all should be a matter of choice. Nothing can be forced IMHO.
Even then, the Feds would overturn that **** in a hurry.
If you are a business open to the public, you better serve the public. Otherwise, don't open your business to the public.
Say there is a small town in the middle of nowhere that has a whopping one grocery store ( Burlington Colorado comes to mind). Let's also say the nearest grocery store after that one is 30 miles away. If the owner of that store hates gays and refuses to serve maybe the 1 or 2 gay guys in town, does that mean they now have to move our drive 30 miles for groceries? I doubt public pressure is going to shut the place down, and there probably isn't a good financial incentive to open another store.
So again, when you open a business to the public, serve the public.
The same reason that county clerks or pharmacists are expected to. They are in a job serving the public. In this case, they own the business, but it is still a public business, not a religious endeavor.
Tennessee Code Ann. 68-34-104 allows physicians or any agent of such an entity to refuse to offer contraceptive services, supplies, or information if it interferes with a moral or religious belief. States that physicians or other agents may not be held liable for this refusal.
First of all, my mom has standards. Go look in the mirror, tubbo, you're at least a 20' pole kind of guy. As for your post, should we just start calling you One HottttDikkkk? That chapel is a business, not a church. I swear.
I know you're used to blowing your top early, but follow that road a few more blocks.
Yes, it's a for profit business and not a religious non-profit organization protected under the first amendment. Doesn't that make them the same category as hobby lobby?
It's sort of ironic that we talk about the separation of church and state and yet we really can't begin the discussion without understanding how the "state" defines a "church".
And not everything that calls itself a "church" is really a church in the eyes of the law.
It's a conundrum I guess.
keeeeeeep going... you're just getting started.. I suspect. (in a great way)
It's not a church, it's a wedding chapel available for hire.
In this case there were not acting on behalf of a church but their own personal religious beliefs.