Favors, Hood (the #23) and Exum (the #5) for...

[Litany]

I am excited about Exum falling on our lap as much as the next guy, but there is enormous difference between Parker, who proved to be star in NCAA, and Exum, who dominated Australian HS kids. Yeah, he also made all tournament team in U19 championship, but this is not saying much: Gordon was MVP in the same tourney and most people who made all tourney team throughout the years didn't amount to anything.

Think of it like this: Randle was considered superstar prospect, top 2 in the world, a year ago after HS, and his HS competition was A LOT better than Exum's. Now after a very good NCAA season Randle is drafted #7 and he is no longer thought of as a superstar potential. Exum had a chance to go to NCAA and show if he really is a superstar potential, but decided against it. Who knows what NCAA competition would reveal?

Exum is very much a question mark right now. Parker is as close to a superstar as one can be drafted at 19 years of age.


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Parker's issue is defense. Parker may be considered a star the way Melo but as far as winning? Somehow he needs to become a respectable defender to do the and be a real star.

Randle is going to be good too but his lack of length hurts his ceiling. He is pretty much a carlos boozer and I don't even think he's as long as him. His wingspan is subpar and he doesn't have the athleticism like Blake Griffin to make up for it. Randle is a poor defender also.

Exum has plenty of question marks. But he also has a lot going for him. He is said be be incredibly fast and his first step is legit. He is good in transition and his body control is excellent. Right now he's a bad defender, but it isn't due to a lack of physical gifts like it seems to be for Randle as Parker. He has the tools, but he had lots of work to do to become a good defender, but the point is he has the size and length to do it.


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[Deleted member 365]

Yes, and I'd throw in next year's first as well(if they demanded it). A true superstar is worth that type of hit. Favors is good, but he's not a franchise changer . Hood looks like he'll be solid, but again he's not going to take this team anywhere. Exum is the great unknown. Unless he turned into a big star this trade would be a success. The odds are that Wiggins and Parker will be stars over Exum. We just know a lot more about that two, and seen them against tougher competition. Exum could be a star or even superstar, but I see the odds of that happening has much much longer than the top two players in the draft. With that said, I play the odds, and go for the best chance at drafting a star. Yes, it will sting a little to get him, but it should.

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[fishonjazz]

He'd be big for a SG

I disagree.

He would be the third biggest shooting guard on our own team though

 

[fishonjazz]

Title of thread needs to be changed.

Its: favors, hood, exum for wiggins AND jack iirc

 

[franklin]

Since we all love to appear wise because of our hindsight, let's revisit the trade that never happened.

Assume the offer was made of Favors, the #5 and #23. Sure, the Jazz can try to do damage control and say Favors was never a major part of any trade - and that would be true - the major components were the #1 and #5 picks. But they never denied a trade was discussed. Reports then had the Cavs wanting our unprotected pick next year. My guess is that was INSTEAD of the #23. Jazz allegedly countered by offering Burks instead of the 2015 pick.

So knowing NOW what we didn't know THEN...

Let's imagine Lindsey and the GM for Cleveland are talking on the phone today. Do you imagine the same deal is on the table from the Jazz?

Jazz: offers
1. Favors, Exum and Hood
2. Or Favors, Exum and Burks

Cleveland: offers Wiggins and Jack

Do you make the trade?

Edit: since it is a hindsight poll and we would have had the #1, I also put in an option for Parker instead of Wiggins.

Basically, I think Lindsey made the offer thinking he'd be left with a choice between Gordon and Vonleh (or Randle), assuming he wouldn't be interested in a hurt Embiid IF he fell. We may look back on this draft as one of the biggest draft blunders ever by Orlando.

Not a single one of us can answer this because we haven't seen Exum play. Can we wait to see Exum play?

 

[franklin]

Yes, and I'd throw in next year's first as well(if they demanded it). A true superstar is worth that type of hit. Favors is good, but he's not a franchise changer . Hood looks like he'll be solid, but again he's not going to take this team anywhere. Exum is the great unknown. Unless he turned into a big star this trade would be a success. The odds are that Wiggins and Parker will be stars over Exum. We just know a lot more about that two, and seen them against tougher competition. Exum could be a star or even superstar, but I see the odds of that happening has much much longer than the top two players in the draft. With that said, I play the odds, and go for the best chance at drafting a star. Yes, it will sting a little to get him, but it should.

Based on a Vegas betting line???

 

[enchilada_style]

I was all in on trading for Wiggins but if the basketball gods told me we'd get Exum at 5 I would defs. not be down to trade half our assets for Wiggins. It'll be interesting to see how things turn out 5 years from now.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Hmmm, maybe the draft euphoria has worn off a bit. More doubters have come forward. Now 36/7.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I disagree.

He would be the third biggest shooting guard on our own team though

6'6" is taller thane average for shooting guards in terms of height. Most SG's are in the 6'3"-6'5" range although there are several exceptions on both ends of the spectrum, with Hayward being one of the tallest. He's only 18 so he might even grow another inch or two. Wouldn't that be something?!

But yes, I still say if he's going to be considered "ELITE," he's going to have to do so as primarily a PG, where he could truly have an advantage with his size and speed.

 

[da ThRONe]

Is there such a thing as giving up to much for a potential superstar?

I would in a heartbeat. I still don't really know what to make of Exum. However when the Magic needed a PG more than any other position they passed on Exum. While the Magic aren't the standard for talent evaluation it's a little concerning that they had him in for workouts and passed on him.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

6'6" is taller thane average for shooting guards in terms of height. Most SG's are in the 6'3"-6'5" range although there are several exceptions on both ends of the spectrum, with Hayward being one of the tallest. He's only 18 so he might even grow another inch or two. Wouldn't that be something?!

But yes, I still say if he's going to be considered "ELITE," he's going to have to do so as primarily a PG, where he could truly have an advantage with his size and speed.

This is correct. If he is going to be special, it will be as a PG.

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