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Game Thread Feb 06, 2024 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Thunder

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Nothing really needed to be said, but as the resident Cason Wallace homer I have to point out that last night was one of his worst games I've seen. He did just separate his shoulder last game though, so I'll assume it was related.
 
Agent#00 said:
Last year he was also miserable before the trade deadline and then after Conley got traded he was ‘lost’for several games. Players don’t really like getting traded. Moving families is such a chore.
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Clarkson did say he wants to go to New York iirc

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My eyeballs say Simone has been in a major slump lately so I decided to run the numbers. Turns out he is in a slump but its not that bad/drastic as I thought. I went back 15 games and these are the shooting numbers:

49-115 from the field for 42.6%. 27-76 from three for 35.5%
For the season he is at 45% from the field and 39.1% from 3.

So not a HUGE dropoff but definitely a bit of a slump.

Nothing like last season though at least when he shot 36.9% from the field and 33% from three. That is horrendous and pretty much unplayable especially considering he doesn't get to the line or set up his teammates like a guy like Keyonte when he struggles with shooting.

Good to see it hasn't been as bad as I thought.
 
fishonjazz said:
My eyeballs say Simone has been in a major slump lately so I decided to run the numbers. Turns out he is in a slump but its not that bad/drastic as I thought. I went back 15 games and these are the shooting numbers:

49-115 from the field for 42.6%. 27-76 from three for 35.5%
For the season he is at 45% from the field and 39.1% from 3.

So not a HUGE dropoff but definitely a bit of a slump.

Nothing like last season though at least when he shot 36.9% from the field and 33% from three. That is horrendous and pretty much unplayable especially considering he doesn't get to the line or set up his teammates like a guy like Keyonte when he struggles with shooting.

Good to see it hasn't been as bad as I thought.
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He definitely hasn’t been as impactful.
 
Elizah Huge said:
He definitely hasn’t been as impactful.
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I disagree. His defense has been really good lately along with his hustle and rebounding. Across the season he's a negative net rating. The last 15 games he's 4th best on the Jazz at +7.7. He is really just struggling with his shot, the rest is improved.
 
Lots of great individual efforts last night to talk about. Didn't see much talk about John Collins. I thought it was one of his better games. Extremely solid finishing at the rim. A few low key hustle plays. He is starting to fit into this system.
 
Ron Mexico said:
I disagree. His defense has been really good lately along with his hustle and rebounding. Across the season he's a negative net rating. The last 15 games he's 4th best on the Jazz at +7.7. He is really just struggling with his shot, the rest is improved.
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His rebounding is really impressive. He might not get _that_ many of them, but they are almost exclusively rebounds we would otherwise not have gotten. His defense has been excellent too, which is very impressive considering last year, when he mostly was a negative on that side.
 
Hearsky said:
Lots of great individual efforts last night to talk about. Didn't see much talk about John Collins. I thought it was one of his better games. Extremely solid finishing at the rim. A few low key hustle plays. He is starting to fit into this system.
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The thing with Collins is, even when he has a great game (on offense), he just doesn't affect winning. Really weird player.

His defense has taken so many years off my life, I'm in danger of running out.
 
hgb said:
His rebounding is really impressive. He might not get _that_ many of them, but they are almost exclusively rebounds we would otherwise not have gotten. His defense has been excellent too, which is very impressive considering last year, when he mostly was a negative on that side.
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Ya its seems like his rebounds are rarely the easy ones that just fall in his lap. They are almost always very difficult rebounds that, like you said, we dont get without his effort and hustle. Good post.
Tremendous Upside said:
The thing with Collins is, even when he has a great game (on offense), he just doesn't affect winning. Really weird player.

His defense has taken so many years off my life, I'm in danger of running out.
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This is so true. And so weird. I thought he played amazing last night but as he was out there kicking butt I was watching the score of the game and there was almost no effect on the score cause OKC would just score on the other end basically negating all these great offensive scores he had.
22 points (9-15 from the field) and 9 rebounds and he ends up as 1 of only 4 players with minus in plus minus joining KO, Clarkson, and Luka.
 
fishonjazz said:
I honestly dont care much about what we get back. A first round pick would be nice but so would not having a dude on the team who is hurting us in most games.
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we still need creators though specially when Hardy’s game plan doesn’t work. But I do agree he has been inefficient and turnover prone and just hope it’s mental thing. If not then reduce his minutes sit him longer
 
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