Federal judge declares Utah polygamy law unconstitutional

[JimLes]

I'm quite sure heyhey is aware that bigamy is still illegal. Do you appreciate the difference between "decriminalize" and "legalize", and why the former does not imply the latter?

I know what decriminalize means, thank you very much. Do you actually believe that people will now not be prosecuted when they try to claim multiple wives on their tax return? Because that would mean decriminalized.

 

[Deleted member 365]

This state and Texas have gotta be the weirdest places on the planet.

 

[One Brow]

I know what decriminalize means, thank you very much. Do you actually believe that people will now not be prosecuted when they try to claim multiple wives on their tax return? Because that would mean decriminalized.

I don't believe tax fraud has been decriminalized by this ruling. Claiming you are legally married on a tax return would be tax fraud, would it not?

 

[JimLes]

I don't believe tax fraud has been decriminalized by this ruling. Claiming you are legally married on a tax return would be tax fraud, would it not?

It would not be claiming. You would be legally married to two women. Now, they may choose to charge you with tax fraud, I don't know much about that, but they would surely charge you with bigamy if you contracted two legal marriages to two women.

That's my point. Decriminalized means getting rid of criminal penalties for doing something. I'm pretty sure if whatever government agency figured out you've contracted multiple legal marriages, you'd get charged. That's not decriminalization. Decriminalization would be if they just wrote you a fine and let you get on with the orgies or whatever.

 

[One Brow]

It would not be claiming. You would be legally married to two women.

Again, decriminalization =/= legalization. You would not be married to two women in the eyes of the law.

That's my point. Decriminalized means getting rid of criminal penalties for doing something. I'm pretty sure if whatever government agency figured out you've contracted multiple legal marriages, you'd get charged. That's not decriminalization. Decriminalization would be if they just wrote you a fine and let you get on with the orgies or whatever.

My understanding of the prior Utah law was that it criminalized marriages not recognized by law, and that those are now decriminalized.

 

[VINYLONE]

Are there any folks here who are in support of polygamy or have had direct contact with someone or folks who practice it?

 

[Gameface]

Are there any folks here who are in support of polygamy or have had direct contact with someone or folks who practice it?

Went to elementary school with a brother and sister who were from a polig family. At 14 the dad tried to marry the sister off, who was friends with my sis and her best friend. Girl ran away for a couple months before going back and livin' that polig life. I imagine her dorkwad brother is bangin' multiple chicks on the regs nowadays.

 

[VINYLONE]

Went to elementary school with a brother and sister who were from a polig family. At 14 the dad tried to marry the sister off, who was friends with my sis and her best friend. Girl ran away for a couple months before going back and livin' that polig life. I imagine her dorkwad brother is bangin' multiple chicks on the regs nowadays.

I don't know much about the p lifestyle, I've just heard that there is a lot of dysfunction with those families...

 

[Deleted member 365]

Went to elementary school with a brother and sister who were from a polig family. At 14 the dad tried to marry the sister off, who was friends with my sis and her best friend. Girl ran away for a couple months before going back and livin' that polig life. I imagine her dorkwad brother is bangin' multiple chicks on the regs nowadays.

Hmmmm... Being a polygamist maybe isn't as bad as it sounds!

 

[fishonjazz]

Are there any folks here who are in support of polygamy or have had direct contact with someone or folks who practice it?

I dated a girl who was raised in a poligamist family (3 moms, 16 siblings)

She got out of it cause she hated it

 

[VINYLONE]

She got out of it? You mean, she left her family when she became of age? Or did she go to a foster home? Also, what did she specifically hate about the family?

 

[Gameface]

I don't know much about the p lifestyle, I've just heard that there is a lot of dysfunction with those families...

Well, Ruth Ann wasn't super excited about getting hitched to a guy in his mid 40s when she was 14 and had been hangning out with regular girls with regular ideas about guys. I can tell you that. Running away was serious business to her and she intended to not marry this fat old ******* her dad arranged for her (typically there's a deal involved, give me your sweet under-aged daughter and I'll give you X). Her family hunted for her relentlessly. It was a tragedy for my sister and her friends when they found her and she went back with them to face her fate. A tragedy.