Feelings on Brandon Knight?

[PrinceJL]

I think Burks would at least be putting up the same numbers as Knight had he been given 32 minutes a game for a season and a half. Also Burks has a true position at SG with the potential to play PG. Knight is a combo guard with no true position. All things being equal, you don't make that swap.

100% in agreement that Burks is NOT a PG. I don't think he has the ball-handling skills, nor IQ to run point & if he's a SG, then he'd play behind Hayward.
I would love to draft a Trey Burk, gamble on a Michael Carter Williams, or even have Marcus Smart (albeit not a true PG) but I don't think we would have the assets to trade up higher into the lottery for them (maybe 5-12th picks)?

Our current trade assets into the draft
- Favors/Enes (if we resign both Al/Paul, which is unlikely)
- Hayward (doubtful, as we will be already thin at the wings)
- Burks (still proven to get productive minutes)
- our 1st (btwn 15-18)
- GSW's 1st (btwn (20-25)

Goal: Trade Burks/GSW 1st for Knight then Knight/UTA 1st for high lottery PG?

 

[Dr. Jones]

Props to Knight tonight.

He's not the player Irving is, obviously, but they went head-to-head tonight and here's the results;

PTS
Knight - 20
Irving - 14

REB
Knight - 6
Irving - 2

AST
Knight - 10 (1to)
Irving - 5 (3to)

Both had 2 steals.
Knight had the only block.

Knight hit 50% of his shots from 2pt range as well as 50% of his shots from 3pt range.
Irving hit 40% from 2 and 33% from 3.

Knight +30
Irving -20

 

[fishonjazz]

No way I'd trade Burks and a 1st for him. He can't shoot. He can't even come close to truly running the point. He can't blow by guys at will and finish. No, no, no, no no.

he can blow guys at willand mke em finish

 

[fishonjazz]

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Tl:
;dr

 

[PrinceJL]

These rules are multiplied when that rookie is a lottery pick. The investment is too high to give up this early.

Recent lottery picks that were dumped w/in their first 3 years...
Wesley Johnson
Jonny Flynn
Terrance Williams
Michael Beasley
Jerryd Bayless
Spencer Hawes

 

[NUMBERICA]

Props to Knight tonight.

He's not the player Irving is, obviously, but they went head-to-head tonight and here's the results;

PTS
Knight - 20
Irving - 14

REB
Knight - 6
Irving - 2

AST
Knight - 10 (1to)
Irving - 5 (3to)

Both had 2 steals.
Knight had the only block.

Knight hit 50% of his shots from 2pt range as well as 50% of his shots from 3pt range.
Irving hit 40% from 2 and 33% from 3.

Knight +30
Irving -20

This is something I kind of hate. Some thing happens and then all of a sudden a player goes off.

Players, you'd be wise to do that every night.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Knight was guarding Artest last night. Artest was the usual punk, but was very complimentary of the fight of Knight. Im too lazy to look up the quotes .. Sorry.

 

[Dr. Jones]

This is something I kind of hate. Some thing happens and then all of a sudden a player goes off.

Players, you'd be wise to do that every night.

Wait. Was this a joke? Obviously you're not seriously saying, "I hate it when certain players have big games, then average games .. You should just make ALL your games huge."

 

[mellow]

My feelings on KNight....

[sarcasm]Whew, glad the Jazz dodged that bullet, they sure are better off with Tinsley and Watson at the point, and Foye as the sg in the pg body. Plus Enes has been, he has been...... well, I just can't find the words. Jazz rock. [/sarcsasm]

I don't know if it would have mattered who the Jazz drafted at 3, 12. I wonder if Irving could've made it off the bench in this town. Faried would be parked behind Jeremy Evans.

Jazz frustrate me today.

 

[PrinceJL]

Knight was guarding Artest last night. Artest was the usual punk, but was very complimentary of the fight of Knight. Im too lazy to look up the quotes .. Sorry.

"He's a small guy," World Peace said after finishing with eight points and nine rebounds in the win. "(Knight) was trying his hardest to keep me off him. He worked hard, man. That kid, I don't know where he's from, I don't know what school he went to, because he was guarding me and I was crashing the boards. He's a tough kid, man. He tried to keep me off the glass and he did a good job. That's all I can say. He's a tough kid, very great. He's a tough point guard or shooting guard or whatever he is."

i view Knight more of a PG than Burks but at worse, he'd be another version of Randy Foye (upcoming FA, 2.5M).

 

[PrinceJL]

i hope Burks makes me eat crow!

 

[default]

I like Knight. I think he is a good young player who is decent now and has lots of room to grow. He can also effectively play minutes at both guard positions. The bigger issue is what would we have to give up to get him. I'd personally gladly give up a 1/3 of a season of Millsap and the worse of our two draft picks this year to get him and a decent short contract filler.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I like Knight but I think Detroit would value him more than would be smart for us to give up for him.

 

[franklin]

It's official. Every player has now posterized Pau:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-uPN_-vlN0