Fesenko +7 rest of team -

[NAOS]

I'm not going to be bent out of shape when Fes doesn't return (which is what I expect), but if I were running the team I'd set myself a maximum price for his services and then bargain like hell to get him signed for that amount. Centers with his size are just too rare. I think if he got 10-15 regular minutes per night, then he'd be a much improved player and teammate. Looking at the depth of this team... well... I can't imagine that there aren't that many for him if he is keeping up with the coaches expectations. Speaking of which, if we add a true Big-Man Coach, I wonder what that would do to his game.

In the discussions surrounding the Millsap as SF issue, has anybody pondered Favors's ability to guard the 3 for 6-8 minutes a night? That'd make getting Fes a few regular minutes that much easier.

In short, I'd try to sign him for a year, maybe two, in order to see how he'd perform under Ty's regime.

 

[candrew]

Guys like Fes will break your heart year after year. All that size, somewhat talented; but only flashes of intesity; flashes of heart. Nothing upstairs.

In my eyes he puts Ostertag in perspective - Tag didn't have the size or talent Fes has but he managed put a string of games together good enough to put himself on the map. Fes can't even do that.

I won't be too torn apart if he's not in Utah next year.

 

[Karadrys30]

I have noticed in the past that Fes plays well when he knows he will get minutes. Bynum is a good matchup for fes. Bynum is usually able to just out size whoever guards him. He cant do that to Fes and it got too him. Now Gasol is a hard matchup for fes unless he is really focused on good position defense. Gasol is more cagey and will get fes in foul trouble. Fes also needs to work on his conditioning because he can not play starter minutes and be effective.

The big lineup tonight matched up well against the Lakers defensivly. Artest isnt really fast anymore so Milsap can stay with him. Al has enough size to slow down gasol and fes checked bynum. CJ and kobe is a bit of a missmatch usually but less so tonight. Fisher and watson are also a wash.

Now when it comes to the second string the jazz may have more raw talent, but it is raw. The jazz also got in trouble when evens going against lamar. He just was not big enough.

 

[sepanol]

fesenko is the worst player in nba

 

[Deleted member 848]

fesenko is the worst player in nba

great contribution.

 

[NCJazz]

fesenko is the worst player in nba

Really did it look like it last night and this after he has barely played in the last 30 games or so. Bynum would have scored at will on Bynum.

 

[NAOS]

Bynum would have scored at will on Bynum.

Correcto, Will Bynum, standing a mere 5'10'', would have no chance against Andrew Bynum of the Los Angeles Lakers.

 

[NCJazz]

Correcto, Will Bynum, standing a mere 5'10'', would have no chance against Andrew Bynum of the Los Angeles Lakers.

Very funny. Clearly I was referring to Earl Boykins.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

The funny thing is, the people that want Fes to play more are probably the same people that clamored for C.J. Miles to play more minutes three years ago after he had one good game and now deride him for having one good game in five. Difference here is that Fesenko will occasionally give you one good half and people are crowing about more minutes.

 

[billyshelby]

The funny thing is, the people that want Fes to play more are probably the same people that clamored for C.J. Miles to play more minutes three years ago after he had one good game and now deride him for having one good game in five. Difference here is that Fesenko will occasionally give you one good half and people are crowing about more minutes.

It's really not the same thing. We're about to see Fes walk after NEVER seeing him get a rotation role. The explanation is immaturity. I'm sure that's true to some extent. But I also wonder if he was just permanently in Jerry's doghouse. Whatever the case, we needed a backup 5 this whole year and never gave him the job to see what we had in him.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Immaturity. Propensity to foul. Lack of effort. No offensive game. Piss poor rebounder for his size. Injury prone. Many, many, MANY reasons not to play the guy.

 

[billyshelby]

Immaturity. Propensity to foul. Lack of effort. No offensive game. Piss poor rebounder for his size. Injury prone. Many, many, MANY reasons not to play the guy.

I might agree with you if I ever saw him play 25 games in a row with regular minutes. I don't think he's ever played 5 games in a row.

But I'd like to rant a little bit about immaturity. This is not an excuse, but young players are kids. Most of them came from dirt and become millionaires overnight. All NBA teams know this. In the case of a high draft pick, like Cousins, teams bend over backward trying to develop maturity while developing the player. (Not remotely comparing Cousins to Fes.)

But talented players have to play. If they prove to be too immature, they stop playing. This is where the argument divides. To my mind, Fes is talented. So I don't really buy the argument that he's SO immature he couldn't have been given a rotation job. I'd rather deal with the immaturity issues separately, and get him on the court to actually see what he is. When and if he leaves, we will not be able to say we really knew what he could do on a court with regular minutes.