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First Ebola virus diagnosed in the USA (Dallas, TX)

Gameface said:
If it's relatively hard to transmit why the heck are they having such a hard time keeping it under control in parts of Africa?
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Lots of monkey sex?
 
Seriously though it's a hygiene issue. Bodily fluids include waste processes. Also sanitation in medical care is very substandard. It allows it to spread fairly rapidly.
 
heyhey said:
Ebola Reston is believed to be airborne. It is very lethal to monkeys but is asymptomatic in humans. The fact that any strain of Ebola virus could be airborne gives me the willies.
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According to whom? Not the CDC:

https://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/spb/outbreaks/qaEbolaRestonPhilippines.htm

Evidence from prior outbreaks indicates that Ebola-Reston is highly transmissible by percutaneous exposure (injection) or by mucous membrane (eg., eye or respiratory tract) exposure to droplets of infected body fluids and tissues from infected animals. As with other Ebola virus species, isolation of infected animals, and contact and droplet precautions (gowns, gloves, masks, eye protection) are indicated to prevent transmission. During the outbreaks in U.S. monkey quarantine facilities in 1989 and 1990, there was transmission to animals in separate rooms that may have been due to small-particle aerosols; however, this mode of transmission has not been proven, and other possible explanations for these infections exist.
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One take from one scientist:

https://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2014/09/30/ebola-will-not-become-airborne-and-here-is-why/
 
Gameface said:
If it's relatively hard to transmit why the heck are they having such a hard time keeping it under control in parts of Africa?
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It's not hard to transmit. You get a speck of almost any bodily fluid from a symptomatic person on, say, your hands, and then rub your nose or eyes before you wash, and boom, you're infected.
 
One Brow said:
It's not hard to transmit. You get a speck of almost any bodily fluid from a symptomatic person on, say, your hands, and then rub your nose or eyes before you wash, and boom, you're infected.
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Okay, but if you know there's an outbreak of a deadly disease going around in your area and you're extra careful, right?
 
Gameface said:
Okay, but if you know there's an outbreak of a deadly disease going around in your area and you're extra careful, right?
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For the developed world yes, for not so developed nations hygiene and sanitation are a major issue anyway. It just makes ebola spread easier.
 
Gameface said:
If it's relatively hard to transmit why the heck are they having such a hard time keeping it under control in parts of Africa?
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Poor healthcare services, lack of education, lack of sanitation, local customs (it is common in some cultures over there to kiss the deceased)...
 
One Brow said:
According to whom? Not the CDC:

https://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/spb/outbreaks/qaEbolaRestonPhilippines.htm



One take from one scientist:

https://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2014/09/30/ebola-will-not-become-airborne-and-here-is-why/
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Conclusion

While the cleanout of the monkey house was going on, two out of the four monkey care takers were hospitalized. One had a heart condition; the other had high fever and nausea27. Both men survived their illnesses unharmed. If these men were infected, it is hard to guess why Ebola-Reston did not cause in them the violent, hemorrhagic death it did in the mon¬keys. Perhaps a very tiny difference in the genetic code of the virus made it react differently within the systems of humans and macaques.

And, indeed researchers discovered that this was a new species of Ebola virus, which they named Ebola-Reston15, 28, 29. The new virus was highly pathogenic in monkeys but apparently not in humans. The researchers also dispelled the idea that filoviruses were found only in Africa, because the monkeys had been imported from the Philippines. The investigators documented a high likelihood of aerosol transmission outside a controlled laboratory setting, because the virus appeared to pass between rooms to infect susceptible monkeys. Specimens from animals that died or were killed to eradicate the outbreak yielded fertile ground for research in new Ebola virus detection and identification techniques and the virological and pathological events associated with infection.
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https://ispub.com/IJPRM/2/1/12768

I did say "believed" and "could be". I don't think it's likely that human ebola will go airborne or that reston could become more pathogenic in humans but it does give me the willies thinking about it.
 
All these doctors that got infected in the last few months - they got in spite of their "space" suits. Apparently those body fluids, vomit, saliva, blood, urine, sperm, feces etc, are highly highly contagious and even a droplet can get you sick. It doesn't take a huge viral load.

And now Primary Children's Hospital in SLC is investigating a possible (though highly improbable, according to them) case of Ebola. My youngest is going to a school where there are a lot of immigrant African kids. I hope those people are smarter and don't go to visit their inlaws in times like this...
 
heyhey said:
https://ispub.com/IJPRM/2/1/12768

I did say "believed" and "could be". I don't think it's likely that human ebola will go airborne or that reston could become more pathogenic in humans but it does give me the willies thinking about it.
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Your link was to an internet only magazine that had one editor, put out a grand total of three issues, and stopped over three years ago. I can't imagine it had great peer review. I think you can rest easier on that score.
 
A lot of Africans mess with monkeys and bats. Bats carry this disease. So when Africans fool around or hunt bats, the disease is then transferred to humans.

Lots of American doctors are having sex with patients over there. Some of those African women have some amazing figures. Stop having sex with diseased people and this "epidemic" is over.

I love how the news is trying to get us to freak out over this. I guess ISIS isn't scary enough, Obamacare isn't at all scary, so now they gotta cook something else up. Maybe we can have another to around about Benghazi or the IRS?

Personally, I'm more afraid of the tea party than ISIS. They'll kill more Americans than ISIS ever will.
 
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