Flat Tax and Tithing

[green]

That's what happens when you pass a conservatives's healthcare plan.

WHAT?!?!?!?!?

Come on now, you are better than this. Name me 5 conservatives that voted for this healthcare plan.

This is a completely INVALID excuse, because democrats could have passed whatever they wanted to pass. This is 100% on them (did one Republican vote yes?). If Obamacare doesn't/isn't working, it is the LEFT'S fault. No one else's.

Like I said, you're better than that.

 

[One Brow]

Did you know that if you work in Philadelphia, but live outside of the city limits, there is an additional tax you have to pay?

I've had to pay income tax to a city where I worked, and then since where I lived had a higher income tax, I needed to get the difference paid as well. Is that what you mean? Are you saying residents get a break on their income tax (since they pay property taxes, I can see that)?

https://www.phila.gov/Revenue/businesses/taxes/Pages/WageTax.aspx

It's a tax Philly has passed for the privilege of using Philadelphia.

It's a standard income tax, not at all unique to Philadelphia. St. Louis has a similar provision. Most states do this, as well. There is no additional tax, you pay the same tax as Philadelphia residents. From your link:

All Philadelphia residents owe the City Wage Tax regardless of where they work. Non-residents who work in Philadelphia must also pay the Wage Tax.

 

[One Brow]

For example, Delta Dental, TDA, Dental Select and a few other dental insurance companies got together and decided that they were going to set the market prices for dental services in Washington State. They all had the same crown fees, filling fees, exam fees, etc, and they all dropped their prices together. Perfectly legal.

So, the dentists of Washington all got together and decided that they would all drop Delta Dental (Delta used to pay out the highest, but had the most hoops to jump through. Why jump through the extra hoops if the other 5 all pay the same, right?). Delta caught wind of this and sent out letters saying that if they dropped, they would go after them for anti-trust laws.

This is just one example where laws have completely screwed over the common man. Insurance companies can reduce their payouts, increase their fees, and profit out the yin-yang, and it all perfectly legal because anti-trust laws don't apply to them.

Fix the anti-trust laws (don't make anyone exempt, specifically unions and insurance companies and you would fix a LOT of healthcare problems. And probably actually get decent cable/satellite/internet tv service.

Delta threatened anti-trust litigation. That doesn't mean Delta had a case. Even if they did, you said "... they would be committing felonies." Delta did not, by what you wrote, threaten them with criminal complaints.

 

[Dr. Jones]

For all you numb nuts that didn't get my light-hearted jab...

I wasn't saying that people are literally championing an equal end result for all...... I was responding to one brow and other's responses about inequality.. and One Brow saying one kid gets protein and yogurt while another gets bread.. I asked where does that end? If you recall, I asked about interviewing.. who has the better suit, been better groomed, drives a nicer car, attended a 'better' college... it was a jab that if everything is truly equal, it necessitates an equal end... was a joke. Sort of.

 

[One Brow]

WHAT?!?!?!?!?

Come on now, you are better than this. Name me 5 conservatives that voted for this healthcare plan.

Mitt Romney sign a basically similar one into law. A plan similar was Gingrich's alternative to the Clinton plan. That partisanship dominated Washington is no reason to think a plan that relies most on private industry to provide health care is not a basically conservative plan.

This is a completely INVALID excuse, because democrats could have passed whatever they wanted to pass.

Politically, they felt safer passing a conservative plan.

This is 100% on them (did one Republican vote yes?). If Obamacare doesn't/isn't working, it is the LEFT'S fault. No one else's.

When did America get a political left, except in relative terms?

 

[One Brow]

For all you numb nuts that didn't get my light-hearted jab...
... was a joke. Sort of.

A joke with a point attached, right?

 

[Dr. Jones]

A joke with a point attached, right?

Yes. The point is of course there are going to be some inequalities of opportunities .. unless everyone all gets the same amount of cash/income.. and even then.

 

[Stoked]

Mitt Romney sign a basically similar one into law. A plan similar was Gingrich's alternative to the Clinton plan. That partisanship dominated Washington is no reason to think a plan that relies most on private industry to provide health care is not a basically conservative plan.



Politically, they felt safer passing a conservative plan.



When did America get a political left, except in relative terms?

lol

 

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Mitt Romney sign a basically similar one into law. A plan similar was Gingrich's alternative to the Clinton plan. That partisanship dominated Washington is no reason to think a plan that relies most on private industry to provide health care is not a basically conservative plan.



Politically, they felt safer passing a conservative plan.



When did America get a political left, except in relative terms?

Again, all weak excuses. Democrats could have passed whatever bill they wanted. To have it not work out as they sold it, is all on them. They should have done a better job. You can't pawn The Affordable Healthcare Act on anyone but Democrats. Good or bad, it literally is 100% on them.

 

[One Brow]

Again, all weak excuses. Democrats could have passed whatever bill they wanted.

Were you even watching politics at the time?

At any time, every politician thinking about re-election has to vote in a way they think they can sell to their constituency.

To have it not work out as they sold it, is all on them. They should have done a better job. You can't pawn The Affordable Healthcare Act on anyone but Democrats. Good or bad, it literally is 100% on them.

I agree it's on the Democrats. In what way does that change the ACA being a conservative health care plan?

 

[One Brow]

lol

Seriously. We have a pro-business, pro-Wall Street, pro-security-state, anti-civil-rights party funded primarily by corporate interests, and the other party are the Republicans.

 

[One Brow]

Yes. The point is of course there are going to be some inequalities of opportunities .. unless everyone all gets the same amount of cash/income.. and even then.

I agree things will never be completely equal. You agree that smart investing in poor children will reap benefits for our country. So, our disagreements seem to be narrow.