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Fish, this is an example of why arguing with you can get annoying. You use examples that nobody has brought up.

Everytime a new argument is brought up its something that nobody had brought up before that.

I wasn't bringing up competition, conference, what guys from years ago had did.... Until someone else did.
So it's frustrating arguing with those people that brought all those things up.
I just wanted to discuss the fact that he has epic numbers. Then someone had to bring up stuff that I hadn't brought up yet dang it
 
Lol. Dude, I know your opinion is different. Doesn't bother me. I'm just explaining why I'm using a certain criteria and why it matters. I want to see if he can get his shot off against guys like he'll play in the NBA. Look at Staukas, it's the same thing. Anyways, you're not really getting what I'm saying, so I'm not gonna continue.

Problem is that the criteria can be used in different ways.

I said he plays in a tougher conference against tougher opponents than jimmer, morrison, lillard, curry and so that makes his numbers more impressive.

Then cy says that it makes his numbers less impressive because playing in a tougher conference means that there is more talent on your own team and therefore it's easier to get better numbers.

See it all comes down to opinion in the end.

That's why all I was really arguing (at the beginning) is that his numbers are phenomenal historically.
 
See #Bern if you post that you don't think hield will be good in the nba then I don't even make a comment on that. That's fine.
If you say other dudes put up college numbers like hield and busted, then there is an argument to be made against that thinking. (Dudes have also put up amazing numbers and been good nba players)
If you say he won't be very good because of the competition he has played against then there is an argument to be made against that too. (Lillard, curry, porzingas, etc, etc)

It's all our own opinion.
 
A lot seniors have played college bball. I listed several great upperclassmen just in my post off the top of my head. None have done what Hield has done.

1 or 2 a year? Lol. Find me two in the last 20 years.

Like I said, to assume a guy like Dunn or Burke could do it if they stay til senior is to ignore reality.

Korver shot .670 TS his last two years. He also averaged more rebounds, assists, and steals than Hield in his senior year. Yep, all of those stats. I like Hield, but there is a good chance he's just a one trick pony in the NBA.
 
Korver shot .670 TS his last two years. He also averaged more rebounds, assists, and steals than Hield in his senior year. Yep, all of those stats. I like Hield, but there is a good chance he's just a one trick pony in the NBA.
Hield averages more ppg than Korver, but that's good example proving my point. You had to go back nearly 15 years to find somebody. Once in the last 15 years has a guard averaged 20+ ppg and had a TS% of 67. Like I said - historic.

Also Korver was an all star in the NBA. He is a very good NBA player. Whoever drafts Hield will be wishing he becomes Kyle Korver.
 
I know the topic is guards but while TS is being discussed, let me point out that Thomas Bryant, who doesnt turn 19 til a month after the draft, posted a TS of .704 this season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuFbjEgK_hE

Thomas Bryant and Diamond Stone are two very intriguing frosh big man prospects. PGAB, which of the two do like the most?
 
Hield averages more ppg than Korver, but that's good example proving my point. You had to go back nearly 15 years to find somebody. Once in the last 15 years has a guard averaged 20+ ppg and had a TS% of 67. Like I said - historic.

Also Korver was an all star in the NBA. He is a very good NBA player. Whoever drafts Hield will be wishing he becomes Kyle Korver.

He would be above par for a 12-16th pick, so in that sense, I agree Hield would be a solid pick. Lets not play dumb though Korver was a role player his first 10 years and found a home in Atlanta's highly specialized (arguably centerless) offense where he did get one all star nod. With everyone declaring this year, you better dig deep because a few gems are going to emerge that trounce Hield as an NBA player. Wouldn't hate the pick if he fell to us, would probably hate it if we traded up for him.
 
This is a tough question right now.. I really can't say definitively until I see their combine measurements, If Diamond Stone is infact 7' in-shoes, which I don't think he is, it could sway my opinion, also Stone's body fat % figures to be one of the more anticipated body fat %'s taken at the combine, I suspect he's gonna be like 8% or under, which would mean he's really transformed his physique in just a year or so. Interested to see their vert measurements too.

Preseason no doubt I'd have told ya Diamond Stone, he's certainly more fluid and a better shooter, I honestly think he's got some Jahlil Okafor to his game, he's got potential to draw plenty of fouls. He might be one of those bigs that shoots 80-85% from the FT line too.

Bryant really has a bunch of stuff going for him that could all add up to really impress a team, he's a better prospect than Jordan Hill IMO.. He's kinda rigid but his shooting stroke is pretty damn good for an 18 y/o that size, with those long arms. He's ultra competitive too, he plays with almost infectious energy, and the ball seems to gravitate his way.. type of player i'd imagine Greg Popovich would like. He seems like the type that would run thru a wall if his coached asked, I could be wrong about that, but thats the impression i get watching him play..

Bryant could definitely outperform his draft position if he lands in the right spot, at this point I still suspect Diamond Stone has more upside though, so thats who I'm gonna say, for now..

Interesting thoughts. Neither kid impressed me much in the little I saw of them in HS, but every time I watched them this year I came away so impressed with both. I tend to agree that Stone has a slight edge and if he measures at 7', that will be big for him.
 
He would be above par for a 12-16th pick, so in that sense, I agree Hield would be a solid pick. Lets not play dumb though Korver was a role player his first 10 years and found a home in Atlanta's highly specialized (arguably centerless) offense where he did get one all star nod. With everyone declaring this year, you better dig deep because a few gems are going to emerge that trounce Hield as an NBA player. Wouldn't hate the pick if he fell to us, would probably hate it if we traded up for him.
The bigger point that Seattle jazz fan was making was that you had to go back 15 years to find korver.
Seattle jazz fans point was that hield is putting up some epic, rare, historical numbers in college.... Not that he will be an nba superstar
 
[MENTION=430]Dr. Jones[/MENTION] I'm buying all the hype for Romeo Langford btw. Looks like a future superstar if ya ask me, and superior to a lot of the high ranked SG's in recent classes.. high-conviction about that too,the footage I've seen is quite convincing, I'd say he's a lock to win Mr. Basketball one of the next 2 years..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNNvXH64RwM

He's now the top player on my list that I'm wondering 'why doesn't he have a UK offer yet?'..

That class looks like it's gonna be wing-heavy and he easily looks like the best guard i've seen...


UK has been to see him multiple times. Our offering times are very strategic in nature.
 
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Notre Dame's Demetrius Jackson will declare for the NBA Draft and sign with an agent.



There's gotta be nearly a 100% chance the Jazz bring him in for a workout. There's a chance his 33% from 3 this (Jr.)year was a bit of a fluke, he shot 42% as a freshman and 43% as a sophomore.

I think no Grant or Connaughton limited his open shots this year.
 
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