Following 2016 potential draftees

[Miggs]

I doubt any team takes our crappy future 1st round picks (those are both going to be in the late 20's most likely) for us to move up.

If the Kings at 8 or Raptors at 9 aren't crazy about anyone in particular, they may take #12, the OKC 1st (especially knowing Durant could leave), and a couple 2nds.

 

[orangello]

If the Kings at 8 or Raptors at 9 aren't crazy about anyone in particular, they may take #12, the OKC 1st (especially knowing Durant could leave), and a couple 2nds.

Yep. Neither team wants to develop talent for future success. Both of those teams are in win now mode. I think Alec (and to a lesser extent Withey) would be of interest to both of those teams.

 

[orangello]

Crap, I've now talked myself into this being realistic. It's not, he'll go top 5 and those teams would want a piece of the core plus multiple firsts to get him.

This is why I sometimes hate Jazzfanz. I end up talking myself into unrealistic situations.

 

[Miggs]

He played a major role on Team Canada LAST summer. He's got the cajones that you want for a young player. He would replace the production that you are getting off the bench with Burks.

I think he could be CJ McCollum type player for the Jazz but you'd be getting him off the bench with the likes of Lyles and one of Hood or Hayward.

I think he would certainly be worth multiple firsts even in a loaded upcoming draft. Time to pay the piper, if he's gettable (while keeping Exum, Hood, Hayward Favors, Rudy and Lyles) then do it. I think the Jazz have enough assets outside of those six players that some team would be interested.

Murray, Burks and Lyles off the bench is awful defensively. Something to think about. Personally, I'd love to have one of Favors, Gobert or Withey always on the floor for defensive purposes.

 

[spycam1]

If he's still on the board at 9, does Toronto take Burks to be their 3rd guard in the rotation and the 12th pick? Is that giving up too much? I lean toward yes.

I'd do it. Generally speaking, I'd rather trade down than up in this draft, but Murray is one guy I'd be willing to trade up for if he slips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB0vHLKuh6k

 

[Miggs]

Yep. Neither team wants to develop talent for future success. Both of those teams are in win now mode. I think Alec (and to a lesser extent Withey) would be of interest to both of those teams.

Trade Burks, 12 and two 2nds to move up to 8. The Kings can maybe draft Deyonta Davis at 12 and then run out a team of Rondo, Burks, Gay, Davis, Cousins. That would be a long team that sounds intriguing on paper.

We draft Murray and call it a day.

 

[orangello]

Murray, Burks and Lyles off the bench is awful defensively. Something to think about. Personally, I'd love to have one of Favors, Gobert or Withey always on the floor for defensive purposes.

I agree. You don't have 3 players playing off the bench. It's a 5 person team sport. If you got Murray then you'd probably need to give up Burks, so this is a line up that could work:

Exum
Murray
Hayward
Lyles
Favors

then

Mack
Murray
Hood
Lyles
Gobert

See, we can make this work.

 

[spycam1]

A 3-wing lineup of Murray/Hood/Hayward would be killer: so much outside shooting and ability to create off the dribble.

 

[Miggs]

I'd do it. Generally speaking, I'd rather trade down than up in this draft, but Murray is one guy I'd be willing to trade up for if he slips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB0vHLKuh6k

I mean, I think Toronto needs a legit shooter (Derozan blows obvi) but if they could get Burks and someone like Deyonta Davis out of this draft, they'd have to love the upgrades and depth.

 

[orangello]

Trade Burks, 12 and two 2nds to move up to 8. The Kings can maybe draft Deyonta Davis at 12 and then run out a team of Rondo, Burks, Gay, Davis, Cousins. That would be a long team that sounds intriguing on paper.

We draft Murray and call it a day.

I love it and I think that it make sense for both teams. One of those seconds should be from this draft.

 

[orangello]

I mean, I think Toronto needs a legit shooter (Derozan blows obvi) but if they could get Burks and someone like Deyonta Davis out of this draft, they'd have to love the upgrades and depth.

Yep, Biyambo is gone and Davis could be a less effective but more offensively skilled Biyombo.

Also, Burks shoots better than DDR from the 3 and they also like to slow it down and play iso ball. Burks would fit in perfectly with that.

 

[Miggs]

I agree. You don't have 3 players playing off the bench. It's a 5 person team sport. If you got Murray then you'd probably need to give up Burks, so this is a line up that could work:

Exum
Murray
Hayward
Lyles
Favors

then

Mack
Murray
Hood
Lyles
Gobert

See, we can make this work.

That's a bit rudimentary.

I'd go...

Exum, Hood, Hayward, Favors, Gobert for first 6 minutes.

Sub out Favors at the 6:00 mark.

Exum, Hood, Hayward, Lyles, Gobert for the next 3 minutes.

Sub out Hood at the 3:00 mark.

Exum, Murray, Hayward, Lyles, Gobert.

Sub out Exum, Hayward, Gobert at end of 1st.

Play Mack, Murray, Ingles, Lyles, Withey til the 9:30 mark.

Sub Favors in for Withey at the 9:30 mark.

Mack, Murray, Ingles, Lyles, Favors

Sub out Ingles at the 7:00 mark for Hood.

Run with Mack, Murray, Hood, Lyles, Favors til the 5:00 mark.

Bring in starters for last 5:00 of half. Or something like that.


Exum, Hayward and Gobert would get 34 minutes per that way. Hood would get 32. Favors would get 31. Lyles would get 26 minutes. Murray would get 20 minutes. Mack would get 14 minutes. Ingles would get 10 minutes. Withey would get 5 minutes.