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If Murray indeed falls to 8 it might be worth pouncing on it and giving up some assets to get him.
 
stitches said:
If Murray indeed falls to 8 it might be worth pouncing on it and giving up some assets to get him.
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It would still be tough... You aren't trading 12 plus stuff for 8 once he falls... you are trading 12 plus stuff for Murray. It would probably hinge on how the Kings value AB.

It would be similar to what Boston tried to do with Charlotte last year.
 
stitches said:
If Murray indeed falls to 8 it might be worth pouncing on it and giving up some assets to get him.
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That said I'd try like hell to do it.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
It would still be tough... You aren't trading 12 plus stuff for 8 once he falls... you are trading 12 plus stuff for Murray. It would probably hinge on how the Kings value AB.

It would be similar to what Boston tried to do with Charlotte last year.
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It will all depend on how high the Kings value Murray. Of course if they think he's a future star, it makes it really hard to trade that.

I guess the point is - you have to find the team in 5-8 range that doesn't like anybody too much or likes 6-7 players about the same, so they've be OK moving back while collecting extra assets. It won't necessarily be the Kings, it might be NOP or Denver.
 
Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 7m7 minutes ago


.@DejounteMurray most upside of any PG in draft. Think he goes between 10-20. Bucks, Jazz, Grizz, Pacers like him.
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... Locke might have given up our pick again... :P
 
stitches said:
It will all depend on how high the Kings value Murray. Of course if they think he's a future star, it makes it really hard to trade that.

I guess the point is - you have to find the team in 5-8 range that doesn't like anybody too much or likes 6-7 players about the same, so they've be OK moving back while collecting extra assets. It won't necessarily be the Kings, it might be NOP or Denver.
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I was speaking more to the crowd that say it's just 4 spots to move up... It can't cost that much.

Last year it would have cost a ton to move to 9 or 10.

Your second point is correct. I'm not sure who would have motivation to move back. Best guess is NOP... Just because the GM needs to start winning now.

Again I think it hinges on how teams value AB or our willingness to move either lyles or hood.
 
King Cy said:
The one person who has the most accurate mock draft year after year.
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So you really think Toronto would pick Poetl or Maker and Richardson will be drafted in the second round? Yes i think Givony is one of the best though, but does not mean he is always right.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I'm surprised Ellenson is sliding. I think he could be a player similar to Jokic... I realize there are some things he will probably always suck at, but guys like him also create issues for the other team. I think he will also provide some rim protection and rebounding so he won't be a complete negative on the defensive end.
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He has a nice mix of skills, but isn't elite at anything yet. A lot depends on whether his shooting gains consistency. If it does, he's a tough rebounding, stretch-shooting big who doesn't suck on defense. Still, I think from the Jazz's standpoint, Lyles is better overall.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I'll have to listen to what he said but how does he know he doesn't have the it factor... He's watched a handful of games... The kid is 20... Unless he's sat and talked to him hard to say he doesn't have high potential when he has the physical profile and athleticism to be a high potential guy. Also pretty productive player at a very young age.
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Part of it is probably Baldwin's defensive effort against Jamal Murray in that game where Murray just toasted him.
 
NCJazz said:
So you really think Toronto would pick Poetl or Maker and Richardson will be drafted in the second round? Yes i think Givony is one of the best though, but does not mean he is always right.
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It's also not the final mock draft. I do suspect the players you named creep up into the first round.

This mock reminded me of last year when people were talking about the Knicks taking Lyles... there is some shock value to it but he is likely just listening to his resources... they may be feeding him poop.
 
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