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Xthren said:
See the part where it says trade down but he is a late teen pick especially if some players don't declare or withdraw. The original concept was mkg and miller not declaring that would move him up the list IMO on the cusp of the lottery.
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Gotcha .. and I understood. I think there's no chance Taylor gets into the lottery. Yes, with other SF's removing their names from the lottery, he may become the BSFA, but he still will not be taken in the lottery, no matter what. Not being argumentative, just stating my opinion. He could be a great pick up, but i think you're giving him too much.
 
With all due respect, Xthren, we'll see. Are you a Vandy fan? ( I doubt it, because I'm not sure they exist, but curious.)

Taylor is a great player, he just won't go top 18 ..
 
I like Pierre Jackson, even though I feel he wont come out until after his senior year at Baylor. He's fast, quick on the dribble, gets to the rim, has a nice shot, and has been known to make clutch plays down the stretch. He's got a true passion for the game. He's Baylors key to success in the tournament this year.
 
Bodhi said:
I posted this in the Lillard thread (yeah, it was a tad off topic....sue me), but did anyone notice Miller was a ghost in 21 mins tonight? All the tools in the world, but If I was charged with picking one of the Baylor underachievers in this draft it would be PJ'tres over Miller. Fire away.....
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He has been a shocking disappointment lately to say the least. When he does score though, it's usually a seemingly effortless NBA caliber move...things that make you go hmmm.
 
PKM said:
With all due respect, Xthren, we'll see. Are you a Vandy fan? ( I doubt it, because I'm not sure they exist, but curious.)

Taylor is a great player, he just won't go top 18 ..
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Ok what do you want to bet on this? I'll take under on 18 you take the over
 
I just had to get my thoughts out on this. Coaching and system can make all the difference in a players career. We have seen it before with the Jazz. Players look great is Sloan's system and then they are snatched away by other teams and they seemingly disappear.

I have to wonder if Miller and PJ3 are playing in a system that is not using them to the best of their abilities. Rather than getting them involved, it sometimes seems easier to let Jackson just run around with the ball and hope that he can get to the hop with this quickness.

Just a thought, not saying that it is truth. I have not been able to watch all of the Baylor games that I would like to so feel free t correct me if I am wrong.
 
orangello said:
I just had to get my thoughts out on this. Coaching and system can make all the difference in a players career. We have seen it before with the Jazz. Players look great is Sloan's system and then they are snatched away by other teams and they seemingly disappear.

I have to wonder if Miller and PJ3 are playing in a system that is not using them to the best of their abilities. Rather than getting them involved, it sometimes seems easier to let Jackson just run around with the ball and hope that he can get to the hop with this quickness.

Just a thought, not saying that it is truth. I have not been able to watch all of the Baylor games that I would like to so feel free t correct me if I am wrong.
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I wish more people understood how important this is ..

I have been unimpressed with how Scott Drew has used Miller, especially. I guarantee you that Miller would be thriving, in a much bigger way, in Calipari's system. There are dozens of examples .. another is CJ Leslie that plays for NC State. If he had chosen another school, he would be seen as a lottery player. As it is, he's viewed a 2nd rounder. No way he should ever be that low (he's quite similar to QMiller). This is one reason why scout after scout, year after year, say it's so much easier to scout UK players .. because Cal plays man-to-man, uptempo, and allows his guys the freedom to use their full skillset. Kids don't get yanked for missing a shot. Etc. He plays a more pro-style system.

On the other side, NC State, i.e., plays a sloooow it down, run the clock down, and try to just keep it close with a low scoring game .. and you have a chance to win. Unfortunately, too many teams have this philosophy and it makes games hard to watch and players harder to evaluate. The coaches say it's an emphasis on defense .. which is crap. All it is is a fear of getting blown out. UK pushes tempo AND holds its opponents to 38% FG shooting ..

Sorry for the tangent, but I'm very passionate about coaching/playing styles, systems, and kids getting relegated to a coaching mentality that can't adjust to the roster.

/rant
 
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