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Following potential 2012 draftees

Oh yeah, also spoke with my Suns guy and he said there has been no talks, at all, between Nash' camp and the Jazz. Said he agrees he could see it working, but nothing of substance at this point.
 
https://www.zagsblog.com/2012/05/15/nets-hosting-draft-combine/

List of NJ combine guys. Sadly mostly 2nd rounders, though Numberica's latest Marquette man crush Jae Crowder will be there.

Other potential 1st rounders include:
JaMychal Green
Evan Fournier


And that is probably it.

Some of my notables inlcude:
Dee Bost
Renardo Sidney
Scott Machado
Kyle O'Quinn
Justin Hamilton (7' white guy from Utah)
Drew Gordon
Mindaugas Kupsas (7' foot Lithuanian because Im still mad we didn't get Jonas)
 
PKM said:
I could write a book on this. I'll refrain.

Give me 5 guys that can all handle the ball, make the pass, crash the boards, shoot it, and defend .. please .. and make them as tall as possible. The idea is get over height and look for guys that can do it all .. then height. So much more to add, but ...
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Royce White seems like nearly a perfect fit for your super team. His shooting leaves something to be desired and he needs to bd motivated for defense, but he could be a perfect player for your dream scenario.
 
Some quick things (mostly for Hottttttttrrrrrrrrrrtrrrrrrrrrrrrrmikkkkkkm):

-Scola is crap. If he wasn't 90 years old, could defend anything, wasn't a greasy turd, and if the Jazz didn't perpetually have too many PFs, then maybe you think about it.
-The rumored trade is Kanter AND Millsap for #14 and #16. If you're point is that 'y should milsap have any value', the answer is that Houston is asking and Millsap has been the Jazz's best player for the past two seasons (excluding Deron). I'll refrain from going full-bore into a point I've probably made hundreds of times and just say that Millsap is kind of the heart and soul of this team. For the better. If the Jazz trade him, it's because they don't plan on extending him.
-Why so high on a weak, unathletic, short, big-mouthed, chucking SG that couldn't beat the juggernaut that is Lehigh and hasn't proven a damn thing in the NBA? No one in the draft has proven anything and while I'm into getting a pick, most picks bust out.
-You've talked about how the league is changing into more running and less plodding as a point against Kanter, despite that he actually runs the floor well and has done a remarkable job picking up ballhandlers in the pick and roll. Simultaneously, you seemingly support keeping Al instead of Millsap because milsap 2 short ok and Jefferson is late-career Shaq-esque in his impact in transition (not to mention that he's one of the absolute worst defenders in space that I've ever seen).
 
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NUMBERICA said:
Some quick things (mostly for Hottttttttrrrrrrrrrrtrrrrrrrrrrrrrmikkkkkkm):

-Scola is crap. If he wasn't 90 years old, could defend anything, wasn't a greasy turd, and if the Jazz didn't perpetually have too many PFs, then maybe you think about it.
-The rumored trade is Kanter AND Millsap for #14 and #16. If you're point is that 'y should milsap have any value', the answer is that Houston is asking and Millsap has been the Jazz's best player for the past two seasons (excluding Deron). I'll refrain from going full-bore into a point I've probably made hundreds of times and just say that Millsap is kind of the heart and soul of this team. For the better. If the Jazz trade him, it's because they don't plan on extending him.
-Why so high on a weak, unathletic, short, big-mouthed, chucking SG that couldn't beat the juggernaut that is Lehigh and hasn't proven a damn thing in the NBA? No one in the draft has proven anything and while I'm into getting a pick, most picks bust out.
-You've talked about how the league is changing into more running and less plodding as a point against Kanter, despite that he actually runs the floor well and has done a remarkable job picking up ballhandlers in the pick and roll. Simultaneously, you seemingly support keeping Al instead of Millsap because milsap 2 short ok and Jefferson is late-career Shaq-esque in his impact in transition (not to mention that he's one of the absolute worst defenders in space that I've ever seen).
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That is what I call a throw down.
 
When everything is factored in, Enes had a great rookie season. I'm speaking, of course, of what we saw on the court. If the jazz elected to trade him, it would be because of what the fans didn't see, IMO. I think this is pretty unlikely, since he seems like a good kid.

You don't let 19-year-old ox-strong centers go for late lottery picks. That's the definition of ****ing retarded.

My guess is that early offseason negotiations start on the ridiculous side of things. All parties know they have time to work their **** out, so why not enjoy the talks; perturb the other side and see how they respond; all that stuff is data. You're on the company dime, so, wine and dine. I'm 100% positive that negotiations are totally different when time is actually more of a factor.
 
NAOS said:
When everything is factored in, Enes had a great rookie season. I'm speaking, of course, of what we saw on the court. If the jazz elected to trade him, it would be because of what the fans didn't see, IMO. I think this is pretty unlikely, since he seems like a good kid.

You don't let 19-year-old ox-strong centers go for late lottery picks. That's the definition of ****ing retarded.

My guess is that early offseason negotiations start on the ridiculous side of things. All parties know they have time to work their **** out, so why not enjoy the talks; perturb the other side and see how they respond; all that stuff is data. You're on the company dime, so, wine and dine. I'm 100% positive that negotiations are totally different when time is actually more of a factor.
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Which tells me that it will not be until about June 27th or so until we hear nothing and then we will know that things are truly real.
 
NAOS said:
When everything is factored in, Enes had a great rookie season. I'm speaking, of course, of what we saw on the court. If the jazz elected to trade him, it would be because of what the fans didn't see, IMO. I think this is pretty unlikely, since he seems like a good kid.

You don't let 19-year-old ox-strong centers go for late lottery picks. That's the definition of ****ing retarded.

My guess is that early offseason negotiations start on the ridiculous side of things. All parties know they have time to work their **** out, so why not enjoy the talks; perturb the other side and see how they respond; all that stuff is data. You're on the company dime, so, wine and dine. I'm 100% positive that negotiations are totally different when time is actually more of a factor.
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100% agree.
 
I'm in the camp that says wait until we know if the GSW pick is ours or not - If the Jazz have #8, Kanter, (Millsap, Al, or Devin) and we're able to take back a bad contract i.e. Tyrus Thomas - Wouldn't Charlotte listen for Anthony Davis? I see Kanter as an asset amongst many such as the GSW pick, Memo's TPE, and a bunch of expirings to get a true star to put with the Favors/Hayward/Burks combo...
 
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