Jae Crowder - who is a much better shooter, much better defender, much smarter player, in much better shape, with a better head on his shoulders - was measured at 6' 5" in shoes.
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Jae Crowder - who is a much better shooter, much better defender, much smarter player, in much better shape, with a better head on his shoulders - was measured at 6' 5" in shoes.
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I'm just going to keep rolling on this:
From everything I can gather, White is the ultimate do-it-all player, except for skills you actually need from him. Who ****ing cares if he can bench this or that so many times? The bench test is easily the most irrelevant thing measured at the combine. Maybe that helps you finish through contact, but what else? It's not like the guy can make a damn free throw anyway. Especially as a 3, what is that going to get you besides a bunch of extra weight? I'm not particularly interested in just how far my perimeter player can out-shove his opponent since that is, you know, a foul.
Okay, so he can handle the ball and has great vision and passing ability. Great, but does anyone think a team is going to run offense through a tweener forward, that can't shoot, and won't beat any SF he plays off the dribble?
He's a good rebounder. But you're asking him to be a three where his strength would be erased and he'd be taken away from the basket.
Sorry, nebulous talent worship drives me nuts. White as a perimeter-oriented 4 makes some sense, but there's not a lot of room for that niche with Sap here, in addition to our stable of #3 picks that were the yield for trading the away the franchise player. Give me Millsap 100 days a week.
From everything I can gather, White is the ultimate do-it-all player, except for skills you actually need from him. Who ****ing cares if he can bench this or that so many times? The bench test is easily the most irrelevant thing measured at the combine. Maybe that helps you finish through contact, but what else? It's not like the guy can make a damn free throw anyway. Especially as a 3, what is that going to get you besides a bunch of extra weight? I'm not particularly interested in just how far my perimeter player can out-shove his opponent since that is, you know, a foul.
Okay, so he can handle the ball and has great vision and passing ability. Great, but does anyone think a team is going to run offense through a tweener forward, that can't shoot, and won't beat any SF he plays off the dribble?
He's a good rebounder. But you're asking him to be a three where his strength would be erased and he'd be taken away from the basket.
Sorry, nebulous talent worship drives me nuts. White as a perimeter-oriented 4 makes some sense, but there's not a lot of room for that niche with Sap here, in addition to our stable of #3 picks that were the yield for trading the away the franchise player. Give me Millsap 100 days a week.
Royce White's stat line vs. the National Champions (in the tournament) and one of the best defensive college basketball teams in recent history.
23 points
9/12 from the field
9 rebounds
4 assist
1 block
3 steals
5/9 from the FT line (yeah, that sucks)
Yeah, he has a lot of room for improvement but he is far from a finished product. He didn't play basketball competitively for 2 years, so he was in the same position as Kanter was experience wise. He shows a tremendous amount of basketball IQ for having played so little. That part of his game can only grow, along with his conditioning and shooting.
We will need a 3rd big down the line as it is far from a sure thing that Millsap will re-sign with us given the fact that there is writing on the wall that he might not be a starter 2-3 years down the line.
And I didn't mention his bench press as a reason we should get him, just saying it was pretty ridiculous number. He is built much like Kanter, were his whole body is just massively thick (not just his upper body, but his trunks), which will help him play in the post
23 points
9/12 from the field
9 rebounds
4 assist
1 block
3 steals
5/9 from the FT line (yeah, that sucks)
Yeah, he has a lot of room for improvement but he is far from a finished product. He didn't play basketball competitively for 2 years, so he was in the same position as Kanter was experience wise. He shows a tremendous amount of basketball IQ for having played so little. That part of his game can only grow, along with his conditioning and shooting.
We will need a 3rd big down the line as it is far from a sure thing that Millsap will re-sign with us given the fact that there is writing on the wall that he might not be a starter 2-3 years down the line.
And I didn't mention his bench press as a reason we should get him, just saying it was pretty ridiculous number. He is built much like Kanter, were his whole body is just massively thick (not just his upper body, but his trunks), which will help him play in the post
Believe me, Sap >>> White, but will Millsap be a 3rd big? Will he re-sign here? He is a unrestricted free agent and the price might be driven up to high to get him back. It's always good to stockpile bigs, especially when 2 of the 4 we have are going to be UFA's next year.
I guess that is all assuming Kanter will be good enough to start, because a Favors/Millsap starting lineup isn't inconceivable for the next 5 years if Kanter doesn't develop.
Fishsticks
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So sad that we have been forced to debate who we would rather have Miller or White. Just a few months ago i think we all had grander visions. This off season better not blow.
Thee Jazz Fan
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Any chance at all DLamb falls to us in the second, or would it be worth trading Harris for a mid to late first to draft him?
Thee Jazz Fan
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He could be a nice versatile player at both guard spots, and can shoot. His versatility would allow Burks to still get the minutes he needs, but this would mean the jazz would have to be sold on Hayward playing all his minutes at sf.