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Following potential 2012 draftees

spycam1 said:
Exactly. We have a good record atm, but as Charles Barkley recently said, we're not as good as our record. Our wins have come in a combination of a plethora of home games, and the opposing team's best player being injured. Plus, we've managed to stay relatively healthy thus far, but it would be a bit silly to think that will continue, even in a normal season, let alone a condensed 66 game schedule.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with the success of this team. But it's not hard (at all) to make the argument that we won't be able to continue winning at this rate.
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Hopefully other fans can see this too.
 
I wonder if the Jazz drafted Robbie Hummel late in the second round if Hayward would be work harder to show everyone that he is by far the better prospect.
 
orangello said:
That is my point. If you have two or three players on the floor that have good handles and can pass the ball, do you need a true PG? Hayward, Burks and Rivers have above average handles for their positions and they can all pass the ball (when they want to) efficiently as well. Do you need a true PG on the floor at that point? I know that we are all Jazz fans and we crave a pure, elite PG, but this team can be successful without one.

Harris has good handles. He can pass. The problem with Harris is that he doesn't run the system. I honestly believe that Hayward, Burks and Rivers can run the system effectively.
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As long as the Jazz can defend opposing PGs and as long as they have someone who is quick and skilled enough to run the offense without exhausting themselves, they can get by without a pure PG. Billups was always more of a combo, as was Sam Cassel, Penny Hardaway, etc. But it's nice if you've got someone who can really initiate and run plays with passing and driving ability. In today's game though, the PG needs to be a scoring threat and a threat to drive as well as a passer. I think Burks can guard PGs, but he has an off-the-ball mentality.
 
Catchall said:
If you want to stretch the floor, you need to throw Terrence Ross into that discussion.
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This is only an opinion, many will disagree, but I see Ross as a SG much more than SF. Has too little size/strength, imo, for the ideal SF spot.
 
PKM said:
This is only an opinion, many will disagree, but I see Ross as a SG much more than SF. Has too little size/strength, imo, for the ideal SF spot.
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From what little I've seen, I agree. Let's all remember that even Wesley Matthews was a SF in the NCAA.
 
I was just drooling with the thought of a young core like this

Rivers
Burks
Hayward, q miller
Millsap, Evans
Favors, kanter

Yes millsap is stll young maybe grab a second round pg like machado, Taylor etc
 
Xthren said:
I was just drooling with the thought of a young core like this

Rivers
Burks
Hayward, q miller
Millsap, Evans
Favors, kanter

Yes millsap is stll young maybe grab a second round pg like machado, Taylor etc
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The scary thing is that this is actually a reasonable possibility based on where our draft picks will likely land and where Miller and Rivers are projected to fall (though this could change, I doubt either of their stocks will rise too much).

And if we do get both of them, I'd say it would be reasonable to project us as contenders within three years.
 
With the ever-present talk of Austin Rivers maybe working as a combo guard on a team that uses wings to handle the ball more, would anyone entertain the idea of Tyshawn Taylor? I definitely have my concerns, but the guy has a lot of talent, is a great shooter, has an awesome physical profile, and is a good defender. I think he could be worth a look into late in the draft.
 
NUMBERICA said:
With the ever-present talk of Austin Rivers maybe working as a combo guard on a team that uses wings to handle the ball more, would anyone entertain the idea of Tyshawn Taylor? I definitely have my concerns, but the guy has a lot of talent, is a great shooter, has an awesome physical profile, and is a good defender. I think he could be worth a look into late in the draft.
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What is your definition of late in the draft?
 
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