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Following potential 2012 draftees

spycam1 said:
My guess is he ends up around 8 or 9 on most big boards by the end of the season. This is also where the GS pick will likely land. Hopefully it all works out.
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I love your optimism. I would prefer it if the Jazz reached a little for him. If he was sitting at 11-13 I would like that more.
 
orangello said:
I love your optimism. I would prefer it if the Jazz reached a little for him. If he was sitting at 11-13 I would like that more.
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In that situation, I would definitely hope the Jazz reach for him. He's perfect for what we need: a talented, pure SF that can spread the floor, create his own shot, post up, pass, and defend.

Sure, there's some questions concerning his attitude/motor at times, but he's simply too talented and skilled to pass up, imo. And I think he's going to be under drafted because 1.) he's still not fully recovered from his ACL injury (it always takes 1.5-2 years to fully recover from) and 2.) he's surrounded by too much talent to truly take over his team consistently. Those two things are going to hide what a phenomenal prospect he truly is, and I can see it resulting in the Jazz getting a top 5 player with a pick around #10.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
What's the scoop on Miller defensively? I don't want any lazy-*** dudes here.
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He's got the skill but doesn't go all out, imo. I may be comparing him too much to MKG, though, which isn't fair on the defensive side of the ball.

I believe Miller will wind up being in the 6-7 range at the end of the season. I've predicted, in the past, that he could (and maybe should) go as high as #3.
 
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2012/1/24/2726101/nba-draft-2012-perry-jones-quincy-miller-baylor-basketball

Quincy Miller

6'9 freshman forward

* Shot creation: Skilled 6'9 forward with a 7'4 wingspan and excellent ball-handling skills for size. Still recovering from serious ACL injury suffered in high school, but quickness and length make him nearly unstoppable at college level. Creates driving lanes with threat of perimeter jumper and can pull-up and finish with high release point from every part of the floor. Averaging 12.9 points on 49.7 percent shooting as a freshman while attempting 4.2 free throws a game.
* Defense: Uses length to make up for lack of bulk on the interior and contest shots on the perimeter. Still not totally comfortable cutting on injured knee; if recovery continues, could be an All-Defensive SF at the next level. Averaging 0.7 blocks and 0.8 steals a game this year.
* Outside shot: For a pure shooter, the goal is to shoot at least 40 percent from the three-point line, 50 percent from the field and 90 percent from the free-throw line. As a freshman, Miller is at 40/49/77.
* Rebounding: Smart player who uses length extremely well, averaging 5.0 rebounds a game this season. Can be pushed around by stouter opponents with lower centers of gravity and could stand to add 10-15 pounds of muscle.
* Passing: Excellent passer out of the post who can read double teams and find the open man. Not given a lot of chances to be a primary offensive option in Waco as a freshman, averaging 1.6 assists and 2.2 turnovers a game.
* Best case: Five-tool 6'9+ perimeter player capable of effortlessly creating offense for himself and teammates while defending multiple positions -- Tracy McGrady.
* Worst case: Lack of athleticism makes it difficult to create shot efficiently at the next level and keeps him on the perimeter -- Mike Dunleavy.
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Since many here have warmed up to the idea of Rivers as our possible PG of the future, here's a nice college mixtape of him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYYpeaDc6rM
 
Miller to me has zero lift. The set shot he does over and over will not work in the NBA. Maybe it's the knee but for. Player that's listed 6'9" he looks like he wouldn't be able to finish at the rim, ala Kanter right now. Haven't watched too much of him so I may be way off but just an observation.
 
Cope said:
Miller to me has zero lift. The set shot he does over and over will not work in the NBA. Maybe it's the knee but for. Player that's listed 6'9" he looks like he wouldn't be able to finish at the rim, ala Kanter right now. Haven't watched too much of him so I may be way off but just an observation.
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It's a valid concern. But I do think he's a more explosive athlete than we're seeing right now (he still hasn't fully recovered from his ACL injury).
 
Quincy Miller has a nice mid-range game. I can see him dumping the ball in to Favors or Kanter from the elbow, or passing out to the wing. He's a nice triple-threat player, although it would be nice to see him cut to the rim a bit more.
 
I've seen Quincy Miller get his shot off with people right on him. There is a difference in someone's release when they know they have a wide open set shot compared to needing to get a shot off quickly.

He definitely takes advantage of his size down low to score though. A lot of those baskets reminded me of Millsap in how he scored. I'm not going to knock a guy for using a clear advantage against a team that lacks size. It's just means he has an all-around offensive game.
 
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