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Same with Kidd, right?

Sure, Kidd was very fast and had good size for a PG.

Not saying Marshall can't develop into a good defender, I just don't think there's as much reason to expect him to do so like there were with other poor defenders coming out of college.
 
Not saying Marshall can't develop into a good defender, I just don't think there's as much reason to expect him to do so like there were with other poor defenders coming out of college.

If it's bad defender in college because of physical tools instead of being a physical talent, but missing the right culture or motivation (Kanter, Burks), yeah, it usually gets worse...

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Really, it's anyone's guess who will be better out of Lillard and Marshall. Such intriguing skill sets, pros, and cons in contrast to one another.
 
If it's bad defender in college because of physical tools instead of being a physical talent, but missing the right culture or motivation (Kanter, Burks), yeah, it usually gets worse...

Chances are he won't ever be a great defender, but I wouldn't say there's no chance. Defense is effort and desire more than anything else. So if he gains that, along with great defensive fundamentals, he could be decent on that end of the floor. We'll see.
 
Chances are he won't ever be a great defender, but I wouldn't say there's no chance. Defense is effort and desire more than anything else. So if he gains that, along with great defensive fundamentals, he could be decent on that end of the floor. We'll see.

From what I've read and also seen (to a smaller degree, admittedly), he's not lacking fundamentals or effort from what I can tell.
 
Some other notable names:

Rivers to the Nuggets @ 17
Q Miller to the Nets @ 16
D Miller to the Kings @ 36
White to the Grizzlies @ 20
Moultrie to the Magic @ 25
Lillard to the Suns @ 13
Tony Mitchell to the Warriors @ 27

Those are just some of the names that have been discussed on this thread.
 
Draftexpress.com just updated their mock draft:

https://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2012/

It has the Jazz getting PJ3 and Marshall. That would be a steal of a draft IMO.


Some other notable names:

Rivers to the Nuggets @ 17
Q Miller to the Nets @ 16
D Miller to the Kings @ 36
White to the Grizzlies @ 20
Moultrie to the Magic @ 25
Lillard to the Suns @ 13
Tony Mitchell to the Warriors @ 27

Those are just some of the names that have been discussed on this thread.

Team needs have not been accounted for yet. Seems like there are a lot of good fits for teams on this mock.
 
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